Kastrup on Rovelli — Wayfarer

vs Rovelli on Kastrup ...

He’s talking about Donald Hoffman…. does he get to Kastrup? I’m a bit dubious about Hoffman’s use of the term ‘reality’. I think his book should be called ‘The Case Against Realism’.

I don’t know if I agree with Rovelli’s argument that the subject is also a construct. The ego may be a construct but the subject is not only ego.

Interesting discussion, thanks…Curt’s channel has a lot of great content.

Yes, Hoffman rather than Kastrup. Sorry, I often mix-up antirealists. Anyway, I thought Rovelli's comments on "the subject" "ideas" "relations" "noumena / ultimate reality" etc would interest you. I agree with Rovelli that mentality is at least as constructed as non-mentality based on evidence from neuropathology and psychopharmacology how "the subject" (i.e. self-awareness & judgment) are easily modified, or impaired, by non-mental stressors (e.g. toxins, traumas).

It is of interest, and I think Rovelli's persona is appealing. But I'm dubious about his philosophical stance.

The question as to the subjective element of perception reminds me of this figure from John Wheeler's article Law without Law:



My argument is that empirical observation has an irreducibly subjective constituent, which is not itself disclosed in empirical observation. Put another way, a subject is always implicit in every judgement, even if the object in question is apparently 'mind-independent'.

As an anti-supernaturalist I can agree with your assumption without inconsistency.