Yes, there is a verse in the Bible. John 14:11: Believe me, when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me. — MoK

Cool. How did he know the Father was in him, and what does it mean by the Father was in him?

Cool. How did he know the Father was in him, and what does it mean by the Father was in him? — Corvus

Perhaps, He was experiencing the Father within Him. Most scholars think that this verse together with others is an indication that God is trion.

Perhaps, He was experiencing the Father within Him. Most scholars think that this verse together with others is an indication that God is trion. — MoK

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He said on the Cross: "My God, My God, Why Have You Forsaken Me?". How could He be abandoned if He and God are one? — MoK

Going back to the OP, I wonder if the saying was a metaphor for depicting the absurdity in life on earth.

Not just for him, but all the lives facing the suffering of existence i.e. the inevitable old age, illness and death while living. Recall we are thrown into the world without our knowledge, agreement or desire by sheer absurdity according to Heidegger?

Absurdity is also the critical concept in some Existentialism heralded by Kierkeggard, Heidegger and Camus for the beings.

Religious beliefs would only be upgraded into faith when one leaps into the unseen and unknown abyss into God which is beyond rational knowledge in the religious existentialism.

Going back to the OP, I wonder if the saying was a metaphor for depicting the absurdity in life on earth. — Corvus

I think all Christians believe that this verse is not a metaphor. They believe that Jesus died on the Cross and rose from death. This verse together with other verses is paradoxical though.

I think all Christians believe that this verse is not a metaphor. — MoK

I am not sure who all the Christians are. And are all the Christians same in their beliefs? Are all the Christians the genuine Christians? There might be folks who claim to be the Christians but turn out to be some business minded folks trying to make money off the followers. Who knows? Are you a Christian yourself? What do you feel about this point?

They believe that Jesus died on the Cross and rose from death. — MoK

Do you believe it?

This verse together with other verses is paradoxical though. — MoK

Paradoxical is used for the puzzles or linguistic problems which have no rational explanation for its contradiction.  For example, this sentence is false.  It is true if it is false, and false if it is true.  

Absurdity is the description for the inexplicable situation from reality.  It is difficult to understand, but it is still possible to make inference and assumptions on the matter.

 The situation in the Bible is absurd, but not paradoxical.  It can be interpreted and explained in some theological way, although it might not be rational as such, and it could be a metaphor.  Or maybe God had his own ideas of doing things which human reason cannot decipher.

Due to the circumstantial situation of the stories in the Bible, no inference is right or wrong against them.  One can accept the interpretation as reasonable or unreasonable on the basis of one's point of view.  Does it make sense?

I am not sure who all the Christians are. And are all the Christians same in their beliefs? — Corvus

There are different branches of Christianity.

Are all the Christians the genuine Christians? — Corvus

There are genuine Christians.

There might be folks who claim to be the Christians but turn out to be some business minded folks trying to make money off the followers. — Corvus

Maybe.

Are you a Christian yourself? — Corvus

I am not.

Do you believe it? — Corvus

Of course not. How could I believe something contrary?

God/Jesus cannot be both changeless and changeable simultaneously. Even if we accept that He cannot change His nature and become changeable only (Malachi 3:6 I am the Lord, I change not...). — MoK

So what's your answer to the following question? Is it a "yes", or is it a "no"?

Does the following explanation involve a change in God/Jesus' nature, yes or no?

Jesus has both natures: an ordinary, human nature, and an extra-ordinary nature, a divine nature. When Jesus undergoes kenosis (an extra-ordinary process) at crucifixion, he renounces his divine nature, and retains only his human nature. — Arcane Sandwich — Arcane Sandwich

I already answered that. It is contrary that God/Jesus is changeable and changeless simultaneously. Even if we accept this, according to the Bible God does not change so Jesus could not lose His divine nature. Therefore Kenosisism is wrong.

I already answered that. It is contrary that God/Jesus is changeable and changeless simultaneously. Even if we accept this, according to the Bible God does not change so Jesus could not lose His divine nature. Therefore Kenosisism is wrong. — MoK

So Jesus can't walk from here to there, just like you and me, for example? He doesn't undergo change of location?

So Jesus can't walk from here to there, just like you and me, for example? He doesn't undergo change of location? — Arcane Sandwich

God cannot change therefore Jesus is not God.

So Jesus can't walk from here to there, just like you and me, for example? He doesn't undergo change of location? — Arcane Sandwich

God cannot change therefore Jesus is not God. — MoK

Is Jesus God?

He said on the Cross: "My God, My God, Why Have You Forsaken Me?". How could He be abandoned if He and God are one? — MoK

There are different interpretations of what it means to be one. In the development of Christian theology it has been understood to mean one and the same. The same ousia. The same being. The same essence. Homoousion.

This is not the only sense of what it means to be one. To be one is to be united. To stand together rather than opposed. One who knows the Law, one, who recites the Shema and understands it, would not hear the oneness of God and man with pagan ears. Nowhere in the Gospel of Matthew do we find anything other than the distinction between God the Father and Jesus, a "son of God".

It is only by a confluence of later influences that results in an abuse of logic that a son is his own father.

Without the assumption that the two, God and Jesus, are one and the same, the story can be read in a way that is perhaps closer to the original. It appears as if Jesus knew nothing of the apologetics of sin and sacrifice that were to emerge. Like with Job and Ecclesiastes God's will is inscrutable. Why a man who was believed by his followers to be the Messiah was put to death was for them unfathomable. But in the ways of man myths emerged to try and make sense of it.

Is Jesus God? — Arcane Sandwich

Jesus as human cannot be God because He is subject to change.

Do you believe it? — Corvus

Of course not. How could I believe something contrary? — MoK

Many things in life is contrary, but people believe them. Being contrary doesn't mean that you cannot believe it. Remember belief can be irrational, and psychological.

He said on the Cross: "My God, My God, Why Have You Forsaken Me?". How could He be abandoned if He and God are one? — MoK

The saying in the quote is not a statement. It is in the form of question. He is asking questions. There is no truth or falsity in the question at all. He is asking someone to give him the answers for his question. It would be only true or false, if he said, " My God, You forsaken me."

Many things in life is contrary, but people believe them. — Corvus

I could not believe something contrary. I believe in all sorts of different things that I am not certain about but none of them are the contrary.

Being contrary doesn't mean that you cannot believe it. — Corvus

Of course, I won't believe something contrary.

The saying in the quote is not a statement. It is in the form of question. He is asking questions. There is no truth or falsity in the question at all. He is asking someone to give him the answers for his question. It would be only true or false, if he said, " My God, You forsaken me." — Corvus

I don't think so. I think that question refers to a state of being abandoned by God.

I don't think so. I think that question refers to a state of being abandoned by God. — MoK

We can only infer from the saying. It sounds like he himself didn't know. If he knew for sure, he wouldn't have asked. He would have made a statement.

We can only infer from the saying. It sounds like he himself didn't know. If he knew for sure, he wouldn't have asked. He would have made a statement. — Corvus

How couldn't Jesus know that? He is God therefore omniscient.

How couldn't Jesus know that? He is God therefore omniscient. — MoK

Jesus was not a God. No one in human body is God.

Jesus was not a God. No one in human body is God. — Corvus

Cool. So we are on the same page.

Cool. So we are on the same page. — MoK

But was he not made into God when he resurrected after death?

But was he not made into God when he resurrected after death? — Corvus

What do you mean by making into God?

What do you mean by making into God? — MoK

Many folks believe he is God. He doesn't seem to have had been God when he was alive. He was just an ordinary bloke. But when he died on the cross, and resurrected, he became God.
Ordinary folks don't resurrect after death. Only God can resurrect.

Many folks believe he is God. He doesn't seem to have had been God when he was alive. He was just an ordinary bloke. — Corvus

So He was not God when He was human?

But when he dies on the cross, and resurrected he became God. Ordinary folks don't resurrect after death. Only God can resurrect. — Corvus

Now you are saying that He resurrected and He was God.

So He was not God when He was human? — MoK

Now you are saying that He resurrected and He was God. — MoK

That is my inference.

That is my inference. — Corvus

Don't you see any contradiction in your conclusion?

Don't you see any contradiction in your conclusion? — MoK

It is not a conclusion. It is an inference.
It is perfectly reasonable inference, if you read any Hegel and knew about Dialectical Logic.

From daily life, it can be also reasoned. Things don't stay as they are. All things change with time and events in the world.

It is not a conclusion. It is an inference.
It is perfectly reasonable inference, if you read any Hegel and knew about Dialectical Logic.

From daily life, it can be also reasoned. Things don't stay as they are. All things change with time and events in the world. — Corvus

How do you know that He became God after the resurrection?

How do you know that He became God after the resurrection? — MoK

Is it not what the Bible says? That is one of the miracles what gives the ground for Christianity as a religion.