Is the cell a necessary condition for the emergence of mind, or merely the first known vessel through which nature expressed it?
Wow. No objections. Looks like finally everyone agreed. — Copernicus
Wow. No objections. Looks like finally everyone agreed. — Copernicus
What about AI consciousness? — Copernicus
you couldn't convince otherwise — Copernicus
But I also meant to say that the Aristotle particularity about specific matter comes into question if there are more than one kind of specific matter. Dualists are welcome to the same party. — Paine
I will ponder upon the differences of constraints. I don't see it as a direct comparison of models so I have to think about it more. — Paine
Your desire to be convinced is the problematic attitude. It's an attitude which rejects possibilities opting only for that which one is convinced of. And that is what you take for granted. — Metaphysician Undercover
This self-referential loop—where the cell both contains and enacts its own design—may be the root of sentience.
It embodies three critical principles:
1. Self-containment (it maintains boundaries separating self from environment)
2. Information feedback (it stores and interprets data through DNA and biochemical processes)
3. Adaptation and evolution (it changes in response to experience)
These mechanisms mirror the functional properties of consciousness itself: awareness, memory, and adaptation.
Thus, the cell might not only be the first living structure but also the proto-conscious one—a physical architecture enabling the emergence of the mind. — Copernicus
There is conceptual work to be done before we can assess the value of any related science. — bert1
When AI achieves consciousness — punos
When or If? — Copernicus
If we can reproduce intelligence "artificially" then why not cells? One might say that cells are simply the path to the more complex arrangements of matter, and there might be higher forms of life that are even more complex made of different elements. I'm not a chemist but I believe it has something to do with the amount of bonds carbon atoms can have lending to its versatility. I'm not sure if there are any other elements that share this same characteristic.If the mind emerges from physical processes, consciousness should, in principle, be reproducible by any sufficiently complex physical system. Yet, only cellular life forms display sentience and sapience—suggesting that the cell marks a boundary between living and non-living matter. — Copernicus
Test them for what? What would that show? — bert1
If we can reproduce intelligence "artificially" then why not cells? — Harry Hindu
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