ucarr
Asking why something happens cannot operate in the infinitely determined or infinitely undetermined. — Paine
Thinking and the object of thought are the same. For you will not find thought apart from being, nor either of them apart from utterance. Indeed, there is not any at all apart from being, because Fate has bound it together so as to be whole and unmovable. Accordingly, all the usual notions that mortals accept and rely on as if true---coming-to-be and perishing, being and not-being, change of place and variegated shades of color---these are nothing more than names. — Parmenides, 8: 34-41, Wheelwright Edition
Relativist
Gödel proved that any mathematical system is necessarily incomplete, but this does not imply the "universe is open". Given the fact that there is a universe, it follows that there is not, and never was, a 'state of nothingness", that preceded it (temporally or causally). The reasoning is parallel to your support of your premise 1.“Why not nothing?” elicits the reasoning that reveals that math, logic, and science are incomplete and also that the universe is open (it didn’t start from nothing) and cannot be closed. — ucarr
Paine
Assuming thought only accessible through language of some type, I ask, "Was Parmenides a nominalist?" — ucarr
Ciceronianus
PoeticUniverse
Is there a logical escape from the somethingness that is the phenomenon of creating somethingness from nothingness? — ucarr
PoeticUniverse
— Parmenides, 8: 34-41, Wheelwright Edition — Paine
ucarr
I'm not aware of any religious texts (scriptures) which are not, at least, demonstrable fictions.. — 180 Proof
ucarr
Define ToE: The Totality of Existence. If naturalism is true then ToE={the universe}; if deism is true then ToE={universe+God}
In either case (ToE) was not preceded by a "state of nothingness", for the reason I just mentioned: it is logically impossible for a "state of nothingness" to precede that which exists.
So, feel free to assume a God exists - but don't fool yourself into believing you can prove it to be the case. — Relativist
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