Underlines that science prioritizes evidence. — ProgrammingGodJordan
You are still a believer, hiding your true hear in the words "prioritise". — Banno
Once more, that you believe, does not suddenly warrant that everybody believes. — ProgrammingGodJordan
However, that one may believe for example in science, does not suddenly remove that belief is a model that does not prioritize evidence, but instead permits general ignorance of evidence. — ProgrammingGodJordan
A particularly appropriate place to invoke the crucial distinction between belief in something or other and belief that something or other. The former is about existence. The latter is about truth. Belief in God includes a belief that the statement "God exists" is true.
There is no such thing as a 'belief in science' like there is a belief in God or a belief in astrology or a belief in souls or spirits or re-incarnation, etc.
I personally believe that science works from a method meant to reduce the possibility for error.
Methodological Naturalism. — creativesoul
A simplification:
1. Model i - belief:
Permits belief in science or evidence.
Also permits ignorance of evidence, but not only that, it generally permits ignorance of evidence. (i.e. frequent ignorance of evidence)
2. Model ii - non-beliefism:
Underlines that science prioritizes evidence.
Does not permit general ignorance of evidence. — ProgrammingGodJordan
I don't detect the relevance of your comment above — ProgrammingGodJordan
Once more, that you believe, does not suddenly warrant that everybody believes. — ProgrammingGodJordan
You denied claiming that all belief are false. I asked then if you would agree that some belief is true. The above is not an appropriate response. I'm running out of reasons to continue. — creativesoul
You are repeating yourself without answering the question.
Is it that you cannot see the question?
Is it that seeing the question would break the cage? — Banno
Where did I supposedly claim that all beliefs are false?
Please provide evidence for your claims. — ProgrammingGodJordan
If you agree that not all beliefs are false, then you also agree that some beliefs are true or you do not know what the fuck you're talking about. I'd like to think that you do know what you're talking about to some degree or other. I'm trying to provoke answers which bear witness to that. Your answers are evidence. It has not been forthcoming.
Do you agree that not all belief is false? — creativesoul
the crucial distinction between belief in something or other and belief that something or other. The former is about existence. — creativesoul
There is no such thing as a 'belief in science' like there is a belief in God or a belief in astrology or a belief in souls or spirits or re-incarnation, etc. — creativesoul
Hey, you have to give him more than that! I remember him substituting "believe" with at least two more words besides "prioritize". "Garner", "observe" etc; he's built a whole arsenal of synonyms! :) — Πετροκότσυφας
What, except strong belief, would drive one to suffer the slings and arrows of a site such as this? — Banno
Provided that he's not trolling, he certainly believes he's not using them as synonyms! — Πετροκότσυφας
Belief (by definition and research) is a model, that permits both science, and non-science. — ProgrammingGodJordan
Hey, you have to give him more than that too. Provided that he's not trolling, he certainly believes he's not using them as synonyms! — Πετροκότσυφας
What, except strong belief, would drive one to suffer the slings and arrows of a site such as this? — Banno
Thus far, throughout the discussion, I have not detected any novel information. — ProgrammingGodJordan
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