If a person is being honest and true with their words AND it turns out that they were incorrect does not make them deceitful, it just makes them wrong. — ArguingWAristotleTiff
True to yourself means adhering to your principles whether they are selfish and deceitful principles or not. — Metaphysician Undercover
True to yourself means adhering to your principles whether they are selfish and deceitful principles or not. — Metaphysician Undercover
Basically people live in parallel news environments with totally different "facts". Social media just enforces that.How can so many of us look at the same reality and have such radically different views of it. — Rank Amateur
Basically people live in parallel news environments with totally different facts. Social media just enforces that. — ssu
What I find amazing is the divide in America - for so many it seems so apparent that we have an incredible narcissist, with only a mild acquaintance with the truth, and a complete absence of character as President of the US. And to so many others he is so much the opposite. How can so many of us look at the same reality and have such radically different views of it. — Rank Amateur
By considering the opinions of others.
Oh... we're talking about Trump. That's not going to happen. — Banno
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Well, more of less yes... this is an important point in regards to reasoning about ethics. Just because someone does something terrible, it doesn't mean other people should be let of the hook for terrible behaviour.
If someone is behaving poorly, pointing out the behaviour other shouldn't be used to excuse it. Someone else's wrong doesn't make another's right. — TheWillowOfDarkness
My guess is that a lot of people hate politicians, because they all lie to the people. And Trump is a poor politician, so that maybe makes him better then the rest in their eyes? — ChatteringMonkey
How would you determine if you were being deceitful with yourself? — ArguingWAristotleTiff
Brings up an interesting point to me anyway. Can anyone be inherently selfish and deceitful? Or is that selfishness and deceitfulness a free choice made against some inter conflict to not be selfish and deceitful? And if there is internal conflict than are they being true to themselves, or merely justifying there act of will ? — Rank Amateur
now that he's reversed himself and says he does blame Putin, I presume you will reverse too, and complement him on his magnificent volte-face, which you supported all along. Quick now before he changes his mind again. — Baden
Who are you trolling for? Let's take an outrageous hypothetical example (I find outrageous examples are sometimes a good lens with which to view a main point): I come up alongside you and say in clear and unambiguous terms that unless you pay me a lot and often, I will do horrible things to you, up to and including - and so on. Your argument amounts to your paying the extortion so that we might both be prosperous, and being right to do so! — tim wood
Putin does not want war, but he wants to gain advantages (economic and influence) with other countries. — Relativist
Whatever tin-foiled shill. I might be replying to you but it's obviously for the benefit for other intelligent readers. You don't need to reply to me, I'll just continue to correct all your inane comments as I see fit. — Benkei
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