Most of the "servers" were cloud based to start with and not owned by the DNC — Benkei
How large are the Guccifer 2 files, megabytes — raza
and what rate of transfer would be required to send such sized files to “the cloud” and therefore also to “hack” from the “cloud” — raza
And let's not get into the ease with which metadata can be falisified or the fact they are changed by copying them. But yes, let's let raza trust Forencicator (an unknown person) above CrowdStrike, Secureworks, FireEye, FBI, CIA, NSA, intelligence committees, GCHQ and the AIVD (Dutch intelligence agency). It's not just a deep state conspiracy but they even co-opted their international allies. What a muppet. — Benkei
But it is the perfect download rate for a thumb drive. — raza
- timestamp after timestamp. You can take between any 2 timestamps and calculate the number of bytes involved and also, then, the rate of transfer of the data. With every file this can be done. — raza
As usual, the idea some unknown internet troll is more trustworthy than various intelligence agencies — Benkei
Here are three of these "unknown internet trolls".
1. Former National Security Agency official, William Binney.
2. Former CIA analyst, Ray McGovern.
3. Former CIA officer and current executive director of the Council for the National Interest, Philip Giraldi. — raza
Should Bush had, as he did, put all his faith in the conclusions of these intelligence agencies? — raza
Are any of these Forensicator? — Benkei
Bush already made the decision to go to war and Colin Powell had to defend it in the UN based on material they and Congress believed to be true but which wasn't supported by the intelligence community. It was the CIA who debunked the WMD story in the first place. — Benkei
Who is the "Forensicator"? Does this person or persons have a name or are they in a category you mentioned earlier, that of "unknown"? — raza
So you do not think that Trump's opposition had also "already made the decision to go into war" against his bid for presidency before he won election? — raza
that even if YOUR intelligence agencies would be part of some deep state conspiracy, the European ones aren't and they corroborate the facts independently as well — Benkei
since Republicans control Congress and the Senate and are uncritical of Trump — Benkei
The protection racket is bipartisan. Obamas and Clintons were mere extensions of Bush Sr and Jr. — raza
This is a belief of yours. — raza
Congratulations for getting your news from a site that contains malware. I couldn't read it as a result. — Benkei
Ah. The protection racket that first lets Trump win only to then beschmirch him. Totally logical. How do you come up with this shit? — Benkei
Here are three of these "unknown internet trolls".
1. Former National Security Agency official, William Binney.
2. Former CIA analyst, Ray McGovern.
3. Former CIA officer and current executive director of the Council for the National Interest, Philip Giraldi. — raza
Suggestion.
You perhaps need better security software. And the free stuff, if you use it, doesn't work particularly well. — raza
Well, more of less yes... this is an important point in regards to reasoning about ethics. Just because someone does something terrible, it doesn't mean other people should be let of the hook for terrible behaviour.
If someone is behaving poorly, pointing out the behaviour other shouldn't be used to excuse it. Someone else's wrong doesn't make another's right. — TheWillowOfDarkness
Yep.They're all part of a Shallow State conspiracy against America, being Russian and/or Big Business shills. — Michael
I won't go into that here, because that's a complicated issue (check Moliere's thread on lying to oneself), and it's not the issue here. The issue is being deceitful toward someone else, lying. And the point is that you can be true to yourself and still be lying to others. This stems from a selfish disposition. — Metaphysician Undercover
We tell someone a falsehood we know to be true. Maybe there's a motivational component to this but that seems to be the bare minimum of what a lie is.
I don't think I'd say that believing such and such without rational justification counts as a lie. It may be irrational, but without justification we do not know, and if we do not know then we couldn't be telling ourselves a known falsehood. — Moliere
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