Cleverness knows nothing of the human condition. It just knows power. Wisdom doesn't know power; you don't know wisdom. — Noble Dust
So you took what I said and twisted it to make it fit some template you have acquired and now you feel safe? — apokrisis
Your habit of thought trumps my clever (because it is original to your way or thinking) analysis? — apokrisis
It is in fact the wisest views on neurocognition and evolutionary lifecycles that I've encountered. — apokrisis
But that's typical pragmatism, right? Whatever works - whatever is well-adapted. But at the end of the day, the only criterion for that judgement is adaption, survival, getting along. — Wayfarer
I don't know if you're wise or not. I haven't seen any wisdom so far, but I'm hopeful that I may see it as we debate. How's that? — Noble Dust
Is that what you call taking things back? :razz: — apokrisis
But anyway, I set out my argument. I'll have to wait until you can identify some specific fault in it. — apokrisis
What other purposes did you have in mind for wisdom that aren't directly tied to living your life in a generally clever and well-adapted fashion? — apokrisis
And in that text Socrates was concerned with something other than 'living in a clever and well-adapted fashion', namely, how to maintain equanimity in the face of death. — Wayfarer
As I said, it is a natural cycle. Organisms become well adapted to their worlds by accumulating habits. And that is great until the world changes too abruptly and whacks them for six. That is nature's way. It is how evolution works. Creative destruction. Stop and reset every so often. — apokrisis
So the template you are reaching for is a polarity. One thing must be made right so that the other can be held to be wrong. And you see that in the first responses of others in this thread. — apokrisis
read again. — Noble Dust
I think the word wisdom is merely an old word that attempts to describe emotional intelligence but has since become victim to a quality narcissists like to add to their repertoire to give an air of legitimacy in their judgements of others. It is to have common sense - which as Voltaire perfectly said is not so common - and an ability to regulate the inner self along with an outer life (professional, interpersonal) and to transcend societal constructs to be capable of studying the world objectively. — TimeLine
You're worshipping evolution as a god. I've seen this attitude in the fundamentalist church; — Noble Dust
So cognitive bias must ultimately lead to something true, right? — Noble Dust
If it's such an intense issue, then it surely avails itself of something which is real, as opposed to the unreality of the cognitive bias that lead to the thing that was untrue. — Noble Dust
I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happens to them all.
That doesn't seem very wise. I don't know what bullshit is; you'd have to elaborate. Self-hatred is corrosive, but it doesn't mean wisdom can't be gleaned from the corrosive experience; there's wisdom to be learned from hating yourself that can't be learned any other way.
Why can't I ask you what those are, if I want to be wise? Some kind of "silence" thing? Screw that, what the hell are those things you mentioned? — Noble Dust
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