In this you've either said too much to be contained in such a small phrase, or hardy anything at all. Some fear deters some people from some things is in my opinion more accurate.Fear is the only real deterrent. — Blue Lux
No, not then. Neither for Saddam Hussein, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot or Fred and Mary West.well what if someone raped a child and then murdered them? — Blue Lux
Such arguments are based purely on a lust for revenge, and giving in to that lust strips us of all that is good in our humanity. — andrewk
I acknowledge that forms part of the arguments of the less belligerent advocates of capital punishment - the ones that don't keep referring to child rapists. But most arguments for capital punishment that I encounter are of the latter kind, and are deeply rooted in a desire to harm.But that's not true, because there is a concept of the victims having justice. — Marchesk
I don't accept the justice-based arguments because I value compassion over justice, and also because, — andrewk
and also because, as Socrates pointed out so long ago, nobody seems to be able to agree on what justice is. — andrewk
We disagree fundamentally on that. There seems no more that can be said on either side in relation to that.Humanity is an ideal. The reality is that the world is harsh and brutal. There is no room for idealism. If a person, by whatever means, commits and atrocity... They should therefore have no rights. — Blue Lux
Compassion is empathising with and seeking to end or ameliorate the suffering of others. The time to apply compassion to a victim is before they are harmed, to prevent the harm. If they survive the harm it is to help them heal. Once they are killed it is too late.But compassion for whom? The perpetrator or the victims? — Marchesk
If a person, by whatever means, commits an atrocity... They should therefore have no rights — Blue Lux
1. There could be machines that do it instead of a person. — Blue Lux
Humanity is an illusion. — Blue Lux
4. They dehumanized themselves. That is radical responsibility. — Blue Lux
You are basically saying, again, that the abject, terrible screams and agonies of rape/murder victims do not matter, and we should focus more on maintaining this ideal of a humanity that does not resort to evil. Evil does not exist. — Blue Lux
↪Bitter Crank To call homosexuality a crime is brainless. Trump might have been right in saying that countries like that are sh#tholes countries full of absolutely ignorant, mongoloid-like people. — Blue Lux
If humanity is constituted by the behavior and actions of humans... Humanity is diseased! — Blue Lux
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