Nope, that's still not even a valid argument — S
Surely you agree that pure reason consists of thought/belief.
— creativesoul
....of course it consists of thought and beliefs. — Mww
Your irrelevancy is misplaced. I reject the thesis because reason doesn’t think. I do. I am the thinker. By means of reason, imbued in me as a condition of being human, I do my thinking... — Mww
...That is why I am certain there are conditions where no emotional content is involved, for the simple fact I don’t think about them. — Mww
That was a true statement.
You could always offer a valid argument in support of your position. I've yet to have seen one from you. It's all gratuitous assertion, handwaving, and ad hom from you thus far.
"'X' is moral according to person A's morality, and/or worldview"
What is the above statement about?
I say person A's belief. My answer is obvious. X equals some behaviour. "Is moral" represents person A's thought/belief about the behaviour. — creativesoul
There is obviously an objective 'what is the case' when it comes to what is good for community, — Janus
It would be absurd to claim that these acts could be generally approved — Janus
A community is obviously not an "extramental world" ( whatever that could even be!) — Janus
yet there are obviously objective facts about whether it is healthy. thrives and so on. — Janus
If you don't buy that there's an extramental world, or you don't know what one would be, you have no business arguing that anything is objective. — Terrapin Station
And you can't get anywhere near morality if you avoid normatives. — Terrapin Station
There is no objectivity in human discourse beyond our ability to inter-subjectively agree that something is the case. What else could objectivity consist in? — Janus
That's the stupidest thing I've heard in a while. 'Inter-subjectivity' obviously refers to agreement or disagreement between subjects. — Janus
No, I'm saying that is what morality is as a social phenomenon; it obviously is that. — Janus
Inter-subjectively shared attitudes to murder, rape etc. are not merely a matter of 'popular opinion', they are matters of life and death for communities and the individuals who comprise them. — Janus
Are you saying that social behavior has nothing to do with the mental or that cultural attitudes have no actuality? — Janus
'Herd morality' is what people believe is right because it is good for the herd. I an=m not claiming it is always right, but without it there can be no community. If herd morality is to be judged to be wrong it would be because it is detrimental to the flourishing of the herd. Then it might take an inspired individual to come up with a healthy alternative. Can you give an example of what you would think of as herd morality? — Janus
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