To admit this is not to admit idealism though, because idealism claims that percepts are not merely mediated and added to, but entirely constituted by, ideas. — John
It's no secret that the mind can sort of 'fill in' details where they 'normally' would be to produce a kind of impression. But you're not actually seeing the edges of the triangle except where there is black and white contrast. — John
To admit this is not to admit idealism though, because idealism claims that percepts are not merely mediated and added to, but entirely constituted by, ideas. — John
I would say that "categories and kinds" are not merely projections of the mind, but reflect the reality of the things being seen as kinds and placed in categories. Otherwise it would all be merely arbitrary and could never become systematic. — John
Things are, however, visible or invisible even when they are not being seen.
And things may be said to be this or that colour when not being seen, although of course they do not appear to be this or that colour when not being seen. In the same way something can be round when not being seen or felt, on account of the fact that when it is seen or felt it will reliably be seen and felt to be round.
so you want to ask 'what is the object apart from the perception of it', — Wayfarer
What does it mean to be visible or invisible even when not being seen? Do you just mean capable or incapable of being seen by the typical human? — Michael
I can't see why it doesn't. Don't you know what it means for something which you are not seeing in a field to be visible nonetheless. Perhaps in the next moment you spot it, and yet it hasn't moved. — John
What else could 'being red' mean, than 'will ordinarily be seen as red"? — John
In nay case, how sure are you that most or even all naive realists will respond this way? Have you polled all or even most of them? I can't see why they wouldn't agree with that.
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