The circumference of the topographical position of any country, is infinite. — SethRy
You haven't addressed the arguments of those mathematicians who advance modern infinity theory, you've just declared them all to be 'wrong'. — Isaac
infinity were a number it would be a number X such that it is greater than all other numbers. But X+1>X so infinity is not a number. — Devans99
you can disprove this argument please tell me how - I've been posting it for months and no-one seems to have a valid counter argument. — Devans99
I wasn't asking for a repeat of your assertion, I was asking you to address the counter arguments of mathematicians — Isaac
I know of no objections to my argument. — Devans99
there was a big debate at the turn of the century as to whether infinity should be included in maths. Cantor won the debate — Devans99
I have a 1st in maths so I do understand the maths. — Devans99
For a start, these two statements contradict one another. You clearly do know of objections to your argument. Presumably Cantor, and those who follow him, haven't just written "some infinities are bigger than others" on the back of an envelope and that's what's guided mathematics for the last hundred years. — Isaac
Lay out the arguments Cantor, and others, have made, and show exactly where they went wrong. That way people here (probably not me) can actually get involved in the debate. — Isaac
Or all the paradoxes listed here: — Devans99
How for example has Galileo's paradox been resolved? — Devans99
So we inductively understand that the second set is 'larger' that the first set — Devans99
Something infinite has no fixed size — Devans99
An infinite set has no size (cardinality) is the only valid conclusion — Devans99
You would claim that the set of natural numbers has a fixed size? — Devans99
1. Assume space is infinite
2. It is expanding
3. Implying it is not infinite (if it was size X, it is now size X+1, meaning X was not infinite) — Devans99
Afterall in math infinite is not understood as value thats why inf +1 = inf. — CaZaNOx
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Well reasoned counter argument :( — Devans99
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It would add weight to the general arguments against infinity if we could establish the universe has a finite size.
The fact that its impossible to create something infinite (you would never finish) is in itself suggestive the universe is finite (the universe is a creation - there is a start of time). — Devans99
I have a 1st in maths so I am aware of set theory. The basic fact that set theory ignores is that the infinite is unmeasurable so cannot have a size/cardinality. Cantor just made up magic numbers for the cardinality of infinite sets - there is no math or logic behind it - it is just a fantasy of a deranged mind (Cantor thought that God was talking to him). — Devans99
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