Without human brains, there can also be no human facts.

Facts are what claims are about.

I don't get it then.

Without human brains, there can also be no human facts. — YuZhonglu

Without bread, there can be no cheese on horse.

How do you know? Is five dollar more than four dollars? Most folks would say yes. But you cannot because it's just an opinion. If as you say some opinions are better than others, then what 's the standard?

No. About what?

Whatever the court of law sets.

Now you're just being purposefully confusing.

Now you're just being purposefully confusing. — YuZhonglu

I'm using logic to to demonstrate that what you're doing is silly.

But the court of law certainly understands - if anyone understands - that everything is just an opinion. On what basis, then, shall they rule?

What logic? I'm not being silly (or at least I'm not trying to). But you are.

According to the opinions of other judges in the past.

What logic? I'm not being silly (or at least I'm not trying to). But you are. — YuZhonglu

You only think I'm being silly because you don't get what I'm doing. Review my comments and give it some thought.

Actually, he isn't. Usually yes. But not this time.

I've reviewed it. I still don't understand.

Facts are generated by the human brain. If there's no brain, then there are no facts.

That's one of my positions. Why do you disagree or think it silly?

According to the opinions of other judges in the past. — YuZhonglu

And that would make it so?

Huh? If the judges agree that my opinion is right, then they will send officers of the law to collect my debt.

EDIT: So I guess, yes.

If there's no brain, then there are no facts.
That's one of my positions. — YuZhonglu

Not bad, but silent on the status of facts when there are brains.

I've reviewed it. I still don't understand.

Facts are generated by the human brain. If there's no brain, then there are no facts.

That's one of my positions. Why do you disagree? — YuZhonglu

I said, "Good for you".

I then told you how I define "horse". What's the problem?

Would you like some cheese on horse whilst you try to grasp what I'm doing?

My definition makes sense, unlike yours, S.

I mean, facts are generated by brains, correct?

yes. On purpose.

I don't get it then. — YuZhonglu

So, there are various ways that the world happens to be: I gave the example that a particular hydrogen atom will have a particular spatial relation to another particular hydrogen atom. Another example is that a given small rock on Mt. Denali will have a particular water content. Etc. These ways that the world happens to be are at a particular time--the rock's water content will change over time, for example, and from particular reference points--for example, the hydrogen atom might be to the right of the other from a particular reference point, but to the left from a reference point on the opposite side.

These ways that the world happens to be are known as "states of affairs," and it's common to use the term "fact" as another word for this.

My definition makes sense, unlike yours. — YuZhonglu

What doesn't make sense about sliced bread browned on both sides by exposure to radiant heat, such as a grill or fire? That's how I define "horse". It isn't how a lot of other people define "horse".

That's analogous to what you're doing with "fact".

You can't make cheese on horse without bread.

If the judges agree that my opinion is right, then they will send officers of the law to collect my debt.

EDIT: So I guess, yes. — YuZhonglu

But how and why would they do that? They have no access to facts. Is it your manly chin? But that would just be opinion as well. To say there are no fact is to say nothing is. That debt; it isn't. How can they rule on something that isn't?

So long as they rule in my favor and collect my debt, I am content.

Facts are not generated by brains. Opinions are generated by brains. Facts are observed by brains.

Concepts of position requires sensory perceptions. The very concept of position itself wouldn't exist without a brain.

Concepts of position requires sensory perceptions. — YuZhonglu

Why would you think that I'm referring to a concept per se?

All right. This is just a stupid (technical term) game. Enjoy yourself!

All observations are generated by complex neurological processes.