This article containing an account of Heidegger's Dasein gives a backgound to my view of 'existence' being a function of human activity. — fresco
Concepts are not about anything. — fresco
You are asking for speculation on the evolutionary origins of 'languaging' as a co-ordinating behavior. — fresco
Are you wanting to get into Kantian notions, synthetic apriori, in particular?
— creativesoul
...at the bottom of it all, this kantian scheme seems inescapable, so never mind, unless you have a better notion. I'm willing to listen. — Merkwurdichliebe
Are you wanting to get into Kantian notions, synthetic apriori, in particular?
— creativesoul
Negative. I just wanted to hear your assessment of how the content of thought/belief can exist prior to thought/belief... — Merkwurdichliebe
The screwdriver is a screwdriver in relation to its application. It doesn't need that relation to be a screwdriver... — Shamshir
For a nondescript thing to change into something identifiable, like a screwdriver, because of its apprehension in thought/belief, would entail a problem of perpetual alteration, meaning that discovering anything new (qua functionality, correlations &c.) about the screwdriver would change it into something else. But, by presupposing all its properties in its propositional form (qua the existential constant), it retains its essentiality, despite any subsequent predication (true or false) — Merkwurdichliebe
For a nondescript thing to change into something identifiable, like a screwdriver, because of its apprehension in thought/belief, would entail a problem of perpetual alteration, meaning that discovering anything new (qua functionality, correlations &c.) about the screwdriver would change it into something else. But, by presupposing all its properties in its propositional form (qua the existential constant), it retains its essentiality, despite any subsequent predication (true or false). — Merkwurdichliebe
Nay, lad.This makes no sense. If a screwdriver is a screwdriver in relation to it's application, then it needs a relation to it's application in order to be a screwdriver. — creativesoul
Maybe - but I figure words derive their meaning in reference to application.You're conflating names of things with uses of things. — creativesoul
A screwdriver does not need a relative application to be a screwdriver... — Shamshir
It is, in part - and that part is inadvertent, as I told you above.Then a screwdriver is not a screwdriver in relation to it's application... — creativesoul
I figure words derive their meaning in reference to application.
Like how shears are shears because they shear... — Shamshir
An the ON button on the remote is the OFF button on the remote.And yet we park on driveways and drive on parkways... — creativesoul
Simply put: If a screwdriver was all there was, it would still be a screwdriver without any external relations; but its external relations being inescapable in this world, become inadvertently part of what a screwdriver is. But it is not dependent on them, they can be added and subtracted at will. — Shamshir
This gets to an important historical issue in philosophy proper, namely the misguided notions of necessity/contingency... — creativesoul
A screwdriver is existentially dependent upon humans.
Agree? — creativesoul
Nay. The screwdriver is not existentially dependent on anything but existence. — Shamshir
The screwdriver is a human creation. — creativesoul
It's not. It's a human discovery. — Shamshir
A screwdriver is existentially dependent upon humans.
Agree?
— creativesoul
How would we prove this? — Merkwurdichliebe
It's not. It's a human discovery. — Shamshir
It's identity and what it is identified as, are different - because they can overlap, wouldn't you agree? — Shamshir
This gets to an important historical issue in philosophy proper, namely the misguided notions of necessity/contingency...
— creativesoul
I would like to hear more about this. — Merkwurdichliebe
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