If you read the text (which is also Cohen's problem), you could figure that out on your own. — Swan
I'm always dismissive. It's kind of my thing. It's her thing, too. But I'm better at it. — S
It's short for Aswang. — Shamshir
Guilty as charged. I can't read. I have a real serious problem with ADD or ADHD. I can't read long texts, and can't read anything that tires me out and I need to spend energy to keep my focus on it. — god must be atheist
That said, it is not important that I understand your stand, Swan. It is important that @Coben understands you. — god must be atheist
may have focused too much on the emotion and not this part and this could have been part of us talking past each other. — Coben
I found this a little tricky to understand. If I missed it my apologies, but could you go into the kinds of reactions that I brought up a couple of times, where people feel hatred for employers or other people with power, where they cannot really confront the person and there is something abusive or chronically disrespectful on the employers part (or the employee thinks so). I think similar dynamics can occur related to issues of sexism, homophobia, racism, where for me it makes sense to say that these patterns elicit hate. I would also say that longer term relationships, especially where there is an eventual split, say in a divorce can have significant periods, and repeated moods of hate. I think this is what the people say. In my own experiences - around friend's parents, relationships I have been around, and once for me - this is not just anger or rage or disgust coming in quickly and leaving
— Coben
I wouldn't use misogynist for a person who blurts out that they hate women. I agree it would have to be part of a long term pattern. At least, I think I am agreeing with what you wrote. I am not talking about short moments of catharsis. — Coben
And in fact I am glad that misogyny came up, because I do think it is fairly widespread in society, but would not consider using it for what you are saying above does not count as true misogeny. IOW I see this as rather widespread and that many of the patterns brought to light in the me too movement are signs of a hatred of women and also, given that women have often had to experience this in unequal power situations, a cause for hatred in response. — Coben
I mention these types of situations because I think they are fairily common in society, most of them relation to power imalances and oftne chronic, because I do think hate is involved, and not just the trivial cathartic version you do not count. I also think that many of the people who do feel hatred are not in need of therapy, CBT or another, but often need a different boss, to get out of a bad relationship - despite the children, for example - and also potentially to fight against systematic hatred that some groups face. And sometimes it is not easy to extricate oneself from these patterns for various reasons. — Coben
Also want to add there is a significant difference (for me anyway), between reading, interpreting and still not understanding and not reading/not listening AND not interpreting, then not understanding. The former signifies clarification or alternative explanation, the other signifies ending of discussion. — Swan
I think hate is a natural response to that which makes a person feel vulnerable. — Tzeentch
I don't understand why you framed your question like "what triggers hate?". It implies that you know what is hate. — TheMadFool
that trigger your hate are rather obvious truths about reality. Don't you hate it when you can't find the keys — TheMadFool
Psychology and sociology may be able to help us understand the origins of hate, what abets and perpetuates it. Presumably most explanations will invariably point the finger at human nature. — TheMadFool
Should you embrace it? Do you like truth that much? — TheMadFool
After all, arguing in this vein, it makes the existence of "love" possible! — Daniel C
Love can exist just fine in absence of hatred and, depending on perspective, can be argued to best thrive when hatred is absent. — javra
love devoid of hate can be experienced. Hate devoid of love cannot. — javra
To the first question: Hatred then is triggered from a desire to defend that which is loved. — javra
So, to me, the merits of embracing hatred are very much contingent upon what hatreds one holds. — javra
I don't think I've ever felt hatred or have the potential to. — Swan
It is pure stupidity and a product of the most primitive part of the brain; (which are usually the stupid parts). — Swan
"Evil" is just Christian stuff. The opposite of good is not evil. — Swan
Embracing biases is almost like embracing willful ignorance. If you have the means, the options, and the tools to mitigate, lessen and reduce certain biases, why "embrace" them...? — Swan
You sound well beyond a minor/teen. — Swan
I'd guess that the key ingredient in hatred is a feeling of inadequacy: — iolo
Jesus said to love ourselves. That would include embracing our evil side. — Gnostic Christian BishopI agree with the spirit of this, but I don't consider hate evil. — Coben
What I have a problem with is certain negative actions connected to hate, such as the initiation of nonconsensual violence. — Terrapin Station
Hate might as well be about as meaningful as a curse word. — Swan
I just think you shouldn't view bias with such discomfort and try to run away from it as from your own shadow. — Shamshir
a state of childish emotionalism. — iolo
Since the emotion of hate exists, it must have some kind of useful survival value. Just like all emotions, however, you will need to remain in control of them, because otherwise they could end up controlling you. — alcontali
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"In order to truly hate others, you must first learn to hate thy own self." — god must be atheist
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"In order to truly hate others, you must first learn to hate thy own self."
— god must be atheist
This cannot happen till one learns to love himself. In that sense, I agree with you. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Goinbroknstyle — Goinbroknstyle
Then I do not think you have learned to love fully. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
god said he was a jealous god when speaking of his love for us. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Which are determined by what one loves, which is why I did not like you trying to separate the Yin and Yang of love and hate. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
It implies that you know what is hate. — TheMadFool
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