people who voluntarily engaged in intercourse and were fully aware of the risks. — Tzeentch
Let's generalize this to see if there's an inner logic, apart from the moral front-loading.They accepted the risk and subsequently chose to kill a living being rather than carry responsibility for their actions. — Tzeentch
Abortion is a horrible thing. It is almost equally horrible to consider pregnancy or birth a "risk". In fact they go together. As if having children is a punishment strangely visited only on women for having intercourse.
Abortion is the desperate measure of a woman in a hostile society that gives her or her children no value or a negative value. Start there, and moralise the society that so disrespects life as to put its women in such a position. — unenlightened
In the case of voluntary intercourse by individuals aware of the possible consequences: — Tzeentch
I don't think Tzeentch is depreciating the value of fetuses, but rather the autonomy of women. He just doesn't want anything killed. — Aleph Numbers
I don't think Tzeentch is depreciating the value of fetuses, but rather the autonomy of women. — Aleph Numbers
Why arent you advocating the all the tragic loss of plant life? Bugs? Bacteria? Many magnitudes more bacteria die that all other life combined, so you are ignoring the greatest tragic loss of life in favour of focusing on the many magnitudes less tragic loss of life that are the abortion numbers. Why is that? — DingoJones
What's your argument against human life being intrinsically valuable because that life can eventually feel pleasure and have preferences? — Aleph Numbers
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