We do have some democratic industry and Germany has more democratic industry than the US. — Athena
Again, you show that you have not read the Koran.Starting with the God of Abraham all the notions of God are false, so my dear, there is no god who hates people, — Athena
Those people who believe their holy book is not true do not count as believers any more. Try some logic.there are only people who believe there is a god and that their holy book is the truth, and the other holy books are not true. — Athena
If you had read the Koran, you would know that it clearly states that it must not be doubted. And any attempt to "interpret" the Koran in a way to turn it into a peaceful, contemplative book would leave very little of it.... if you had read it you would know it is chock-full of hatred and threats of violence against non-believers.Or people who share the same holy book and disagree with the other person's interpretation of the book. I do not have much patience for this. — Athena
Starting with the God of Abraham all the notions of God are false, so my dear, there is no god who hates people,
— Athena
Again, you show that you have not read the Koran.
there are only people who believe there is a god and that their holy book is the truth, and the other holy books are not true.
— Athena
Those people who believe their holy book is not true do not count as believers any more. Try some logic.
Or people who share the same holy book and disagree with the other person's interpretation of the book. I do not have much patience for this.
— Athena
If you had read the Koran, you would know that it clearly states that it must not be doubted. And any attempt to "interpret" the Koran in a way to turn it into a peaceful, contemplative book would leave very little of it.... if you had read it you would know it is chock-full of hatred and threats of violence against non-believers.
You really might want to do a little reality-check for your PC stereotypes. — Nobeernolife
Thats not what all the Hollywood movies i've seen since the age of 5 said, so you sir are wrong! — christian2017
God himself is omnificticious. Prove me wrong.
His genocide and killing when he can just as easily cure, the way Jesus said he came to do is much more benevolent. Right?
We create the gods to serve us, not kill us. Right? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
My comments were based on the assumption that god exists and is as defined, all-good, all-knowing and all-powerful. — TheMadFool
You do realize that all-knowing and all-powerful is a contradiction in terms, do you? — Nobeernolife
Do I REALLY have to explain that? — Nobeernolife
You need not but I'd be grateful if you would. — TheMadFool
If you KNOW what will happen, then you are not free to make it happen any more.
This is an old observation, not my idea. — Nobeernolife
From this he can predict all the positions the horse will assume in the race: omniscience. — TheMadFool
What is that even supposed to mean? — Nobeernolife
Personally, I believe in free will and that being the case, foreknowledge is impossible insofar as free agents are involved in the chain of causation. — TheMadFool
Most industry is built on the autocratic model, right? — Athena
They do not believe the other people's holy book and are willing to kill them. When none of the God of Abraham religions are based on truth. They are based on the same mythical Sumerian story.Those people who believe their holy book is not true do not count as believers anymore. Try some logic. — Nobeernolife
If foreknowledge is impossible, then god can not be omniscient.
As I said, you can not have it both ways. — Nobeernolife
What the heck! Why are you so onerary? Mohammid plagiarized Jewish and Christian stories to write a book for Arabs. — Athena
That is a hierarchy of authority. It separates management from the laborer as Christianity separates those born to rule from those born to serve. — Athena
That is irrelevant to my comment. I was simply pointing out that the description of the Allah character is so different from the description of the Yahweh character, that if we claim it is the same god figure, this god figure has to be schizophrenic. I am not arguing about how the religious books came about, I am simply ,making a logical point. Why are you so onerary? — Nobeernolife
n Islam, God (Arabic: الله, romanized: Allāh, contraction of الْإِلٰه al-ilāh, lit. "the God") is the absolute one, the all-powerful and all-knowing ruler of the universe, and the creator of everything in existence. Islam emphasizes that God is strictly singular (tawḥīd ); unique (wāḥid ); inherently One (aḥad );[1] and also all-merciful and omnipotent.[2] According to Islam, God is neither a material nor a spiritual being.[3] According to Islamic teachings, beyond the Throne[4] and according to the Quran, "No vision can grasp him, but His grasp is over all vision: He is above all comprehension, yet is acquainted with all things."[5]
In Islam there is only one God and there are 99 names of that one God (al-asmāʼ al-ḥusná lit. meaning: "The best names"), each of which evokes a distinct attribute of God.[6][7] All these names refer to Allah, the supreme and all-comprehensive god.[8] Among the 99 names of God, the most familiar and frequent are "the Compassionate" (Ar-Raḥmān) and "the Merciful" (Ar-Raḥīm).[6][7] Creation and ordering of the universe is seen as an act of prime mercy for which all creatures praise God's attributes and bear witness to God's unity. — wikipedia
Since you are the authority on Islam and I most certainly am not, please correct this Wikipedia explanation of Allah and explain how other ideas of the God of Abraham are better. — Athena
Industrial democracy is an arrangement which involves workers making decisions, sharing responsibility and authority in the workplace. While in participative management organizational designs workers are listened to and take part in the decision-making process, in organizations employing industrial democracy they also have the final decisive power (they decide about organizational design and hierarchy as well).[1]
In company law, the term generally used is co-determination, following the German word Mitbestimmung. In Germany, companies with more than 2000 employees (or more than 1000 employees in the coal and steel industries) have half of their supervisory boards of directors (which elect management) elected by the shareholders and half by the workers.
Although industrial democracy generally refers to the organization model in which workplaces are run directly by the people who work in them in place of private or state ownership of the means of production, there are also representative forms of industrial democracy. Representative industrial democracy includes decision-making structures such as the formation of committees and consultative bodies to facilitate communication between management, unions, and staff. — wilipedia
I did not say that "w other ideas of the God of Abraham are better". I explained (how many times now?) that seeing how Allah hates the followers of the God of Abraham, it would have to be schizophrenic god of you claim it is the same god. That is simple logic.
Is that really so hard to wrap your mind around? — Nobeernolife
People of the Book
Muslims believe that God had previously revealed Himself to the earlier prophets of the Jews and Christians, such as Abraham, Moses, and Jesus. Muslims therefore accept the teachings of both the Jewish Torah and the Christian Gospels. They believe that Islam is the perfection of the religion revealed first to Abraham (who is considered the first Muslim) and later to other prophets. Muslims believe that Jews and Christians have strayed from God's true faith but hold them in higher esteem than pagans and unbelievers. They call Jews and Christians the "People of the Book" and allow them to practice their own religions. Muslims believe that Muhammad is the "seal of the prophecy," by which they mean that he is the last in the series of prophets God sent to mankind. Muslims abhor the followers of later prophets. This attitude serves to explain the extreme Muslim animosity toward Bahais, followers of a nineteenth-century prophet, who in the Muslim mind is false.
https://www.pbs.org/empires/islam/faithpeople.html
What does that have to do with religion? The God of Abraham has a kingdom not a democracy. — Athena
You obviously have different information than I do, and I don't believe as you do. Is that so hard for you to get your head around? Here is what I believe is true. — Athena
They call Jews and Christians the "People of the Book" and allow them to practice their own religions.
The amorites were committing genocide (infanticide) on their own people and they oppressed their poor. — christian2017
i don't believe it is less moral. — christian2017
Abortion is forgivable but it is murder. — christian2017
Its better to die young then grow up in a very depressing and corrupt culture.... — christian2017
As to worse things, i find that naturalism and/or atheism leads to a simplistic view on how to treat people so it would benefit my spirits to become naturalist or atheist. — christian2017
ok. I make the best pizza in the world but how would i prove that on an online forum. — christian2017
I do not see that the "God of Abraham" has anything to do with democracy. To the contrary, Christianity has the concept of separation between church and state. — Nobeernolife
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