I actually never said you said that but that you fall into the profile of someone who might say something like that. I actually never literally accused you of saying that. You appear to be more open minded than i originally though
— christian2017
Was that an apology?
You show how uncouth you are. A gentleman would just apologise and shut the hell up. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Jesus Christ didn't refute the law of Moses. If Moses allowed divorce, Jesus Christ didn't change that, and if you would like you can try to prove otherwise. — christian2017
If Moses allowed divorce which he did, Jesus Christ was simply saying that the pharisees (and people like that) were taking the issues of the sex and the heart far too lightly. As you well know divorce is not a light issue. — christian2017
Jesus Christ didn't refute the law of Moses. If Moses allowed divorce, Jesus Christ didn't change that, and if you would like you can try to prove otherwise.
— christian2017
I did not say he changed anything. Thanks for the deflection. I said he endorsed a no divorce policy and it is an unjust policy. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Are you implying modern christian don't read the Bible (including Proverbs chapter 1 KJV)? I agree. — christian2017
If Moses allowed divorce which he did, Jesus Christ was simply saying that the pharisees (and people like that) were taking the issues of the sex and the heart far too lightly. As you well know divorce is not a light issue.
— christian2017
You are adding a lot to scriptures without even quoting the original.
You are deflecting all over the place and want me to read half the bible instead of being honest with the text.
Typical Christian.
Seems like we are done here. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
I was simply saying that you weren't as close minded as i originally thought. — christian2017
Given the lack of decent apologists for Christianity, I can affirm that I doubt that any Christians are reading or living by even the good parts of the bible.
The Catholic Church is even putting priests out there to do apologetics and even they are falling flat on their faces.
This is not surprising as they never had decent moral values to sell and that is why they resorted to murderous inquisitions instead of moral debates. Then as now, Christians are moral cowards.
Trust me on this. I have a long history of being insulted by Christians as they run for the hills. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Listen.... I said he didn't change anything. He didn't change the law of Moses. He simply said that even Moses (or God if you will) preferred no divorce. My assumption was you would make that very small leap in thought. — christian2017
I am a Gnostic Christian and we are known as the only good Christians by some because we have open minds. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
I do recognize that the majority are belligerent and obtuse, but I hope not as ill mannered as you think. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Listen.... I said he didn't change anything. He didn't change the law of Moses. He simply said that even Moses (or God if you will) preferred no divorce. My assumption was you would make that very small leap in thought.
— christian2017
I Indicated that the Yahweh/Jesus combo wanted a no divorce policy. Not Moses. He did not reply to Jesus in that passage. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
I can promise you if you try to see Jesus Christ as a simple and direct no nonsense kind of kind guy, not only will you find plenty of modern christians who will think like you but you'll also eventually find contradictions in the Bible. — christian2017
Contradictions in the bible I already know by the score and having suffered my apotheosis and gained a Christ consciousness, I can tell you that any modern Christian who, given the nature of Christianity, remains a Christian and does not convert to either Gnostic Christianity or atheism, they will not think like me or Jesus.
Many are called to do so but remain on the wide road to hell instead of joining me in heaven. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
What is obvious to me is the power of having special knowledge. This power is even greater if it is believed to be sacred knowledge. It becomes even greater when there is only one god, only one truth. Democracy is an imitation of the gods who argued with each other until they had a consensus on the best reasoning. None of those gods had absolute power and each one had his/her point of view. — Athena
Christians typically aren't allowed to do evangelizing on sites like this. — christian2017
I go on this site so that i consume less alcohol. — christian2017
Christians tend to have equal or better morals than naturalists. — christian2017
Lets say hypothetically someone gave you 80, 90 or 99 percent proof or a substantial argument that your philosophy/religion was inferior to theirs, wouldn't that drive you to depression? I would love to have a great reason to embrace atheism or naturalism. I can think of far worse things. — christian2017
By some. And then others think you are crazy. And then others think you have terrible sexual immorality. — christian2017
I find you belligerent and obtuse, — christian2017
Christians typically aren't allowed to do evangelizing on sites like this.
— christian2017
Apologetics is not evangelizing. It is explaining the text with arguments and opinions and not just quoting it the way the more stupid believers do. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
I go on this site so that i consume less alcohol.
— christian2017
Try pot. It is way healthier and a change of thinking pattern might be handy. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Christians tend to have equal or better morals than naturalists.
— christian2017
???
Do naturalists believe that genocide and infanticide are good character traits? I don't think so.
Stop being so stupid drunk. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Lets say hypothetically someone gave you 80, 90 or 99 percent proof or a substantial argument that your philosophy/religion was inferior to theirs, wouldn't that drive you to depression? I would love to have a great reason to embrace atheism or naturalism. I can think of far worse things.
— christian2017
Depression??
Hell no. It would be glorious. One of the greatest joys in life is being corrected. To resist it is to want to remain on the wrong path. Christians do that, en mass, as they put their tribal associations ahead of their moral sense. Gnostic Christians do the opposite, and being that we are perpetual seekers after the best rules and laws to live by, I would even pay money to lose an argument.
As to worse things. Just look at the mainstream religions. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
By some. And then others think you are crazy. And then others think you have terrible sexual immorality.
— christian2017
Only the stupid who do not know a Gnostic Christian and only believe the lies that the inquisitors put out to justify their many murders of my forefathers. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
I find you belligerent and obtuse,
— christian2017
I am a fundamental, yes, but you cannot quote or find anywhere where I am obtuse.
Stop lying you drunken bum. Kidding on that last.
You are just repeating in your last so I will ignore it. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Jesus told the Pharicees they had the wrong concept of who God is. Do you understand what I am getting at. Typed from my phonE — christian2017
esus told the Pharicees they had the wrong concept of who God is. Do you understand what I am getting at. Typed from my phonE
— christian2017
How is such a god who can be known different from Zeus? — Athena
At the end of day, there is only you or I to say what is important.
And we will do that or not. — Valentinus
That was an interesting read that held my attention. However, when I asked my question, I was not thinking of comparing human stories of the gods. My thinking was very simple. I don't think anyone today believes Zeus was a real god. Why should I believe the God of Abraham is a real God? — Athena
Apparently you never read the Koran and the Haddiths. Try that before posting more false statements. — Nobeernolife
The way I understand the definitions, morals are the thinking part and ethics are the action part.
I share your wish that business and governments would be more democratic but they have a long way to go yet.
Christianity may work for millions, as you say, but it does not work to bring equality for all as they continue to preach their homophobic and misogynous teachings that victimises more millions than what it works for.
I think that the sooner we rid ourselves of the religions that are inferior in law to secular law, Christianity and Islam leading that list, the sooner all will have equality.
Regards — Gnostic Christian Bishop
I do recognized the power of positive thinking and bio feedback but that is it. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
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