What would be the threshold that separates us from what we can consider natural and what does a natural faculty mean to you? — armonie
They think so much that relativism kicks in but they are unable to handle it. That's why they say crazy things. That quote was from Chesterton but could have been from Jung. — Gregory
what is the difference between "reason" and "logic"? — Antidote
I'm not sure I follow you here.What a beautiful way to describe it, I definitely agree. From what I gather, there is an infinite spectrum of vibration, always one greater, always one lesser. — Antidote
I agree that animal rationality is guided by animal purposes, and that the reasoning of discursive sentient beings, including human animals, is informed by their purposes.Reason must be purpose. And I only turn to purpose for a reason usually to learn something I don't know. Have you looked at Egypt much or before? — Antidote
I'm not sure I follow here either.Definitely so, logic is the lesser of the two by far but then it would be, logic was man made. I see logic at the beginning but then its soon surpassed by reason in the gap between. — Antidote
Plato and his contemporaries understood the political character of philosophical discourse.This is what I want to understand. Have you heard Kasabian - Days are Forgotten? Great tune. I think Plato's Republic - Book 1 gives an insight but I'm open and if the fiction can be put right then its something I guess. — Antidote
Ok so that I'm clear on this, what we are really describing by "application" is expression. And describing "formal study" is definition. If so, then we are really describing just logic and not reason. Because these are the attributes of logic. Logic does seem to have a place thats for sure, but only within reason, and certainly not without it.
We can happily say that the pyramids were built before the Ancient Greeks were about, and the Ancient Greeks invented logic by definition so it would appear, unless I'm mistaken, the cart is before the horse again.
If I use your last example, we are saying the Egyptians "knew" how to apply what we now call logic (if logic is within reason then reason knows everything about logic) and the Greeks then tried to describe it or define it. The Greeks of course may have had a very good reason to do such a thing, or not. — Antidote
So we were perfectly capable before logic was invented. — Antidote
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