• EnPassant
    667
    Okay, so then how would you define what an 'event' is?Justin Peterson

    In physical time it is the relationship between physical objects in space.
  • Justin Peterson
    54
    The relationship, what exactly does that mean? There is always change in an 'event'. Unless by 'relationship' you are referring to the way in which molecules interact or bind together, but even then there is no way for them to bind without some kind of change taking place, unless you are referring to a timeless Universe in which those molecules have been binded together since the beginning of time.
  • EnPassant
    667
    The relationship, what exactly does that mean? There is always change in an 'event'. Unless by 'relationship' you are referring to the way in which molecules interact or bind together, but even then there is no way for them to bind without some kind of change taking place, unless you are referring to a timeless Universe in which those molecules have been binded together since the beginning of time.Justin Peterson

    Change is evidence of time but time is more than change, it is the mathematical description of change. In Relativity this description is the geometry of spacetime. Time is the way change happens. In quantum spacetime change seems to happen according to a different geometry. The mathematics of how change happens in quantum spacetime is different from the mathematics of physical spacetime, so we have two spacetimes.
  • Enrique
    842
    Change is evidence of time but time is more than change, it is the mathematical description of change. In Relativity this description is the geometry of spacetime. Time is the way change happens. In quantum spacetime change seems to happen according to a different geometry. The mathematics of how change happens in quantum spacetime is different from the mathematics of physical spacetime, so we have two spacetimes.EnPassant

    The laws of quantum spacetime might be a product of the properties of waves, while physical spacetime as you call it is an emergent property of complex wave combinations as generated by the interaction of quantum fields, on some scales giving rise to what we recognize as shape (equilibrated superpositions?) and relative motion. Then what are waves an emergent property of? That's something we can't even begin to imagine at this stage of science.
  • Justin Peterson
    54
    The laws of quantum spacetime might be a product of the properties of waves, while physical spacetime as you call it is an emergent property of complex wave combinations as generated by the interaction of quantum fields, on some scales giving rise to what we recognize as shape (superpositions) and relative motion. Then what are waves an emergent property of? That's something we can't even begin to imagine at this stage of science.Enrique

    This is what I came here to say. It goes along with Schrodingers cat, a thought experiment that states that something exists in all forms at once until it is observed i.e. until the change is observed. A mathematical equation was later given to it and since has been recognized in Quantum Physics.

    As per my own philosophy, waves are just an emergent property of ideas. Suffice to say that everything in our material existence is nothing more than a reference to these ideas. Schelling argued that everything exists because it has an equal opposite, and I back up this claim when I mention entropy and how it is the only type of radioactive frequency that exists as a particle. Apart from that, however, each frequency has properties that I propose we cannot perceive. For example, we have sound and light energy on the spectrum. Can it be said that light ends respectively at around 400 and 700 trillion hertz, that from there it just stops having the property of light? Can it be said that the only frequencies that can be heard by the most advanced ears that man has never known ends at 10kHz, that the frequencies that follow no longer have "sound" properties, or can it be said that our perceptions of this information is simply just a way of perceiving the same exact information that is contained within all frequencies? That is to say that light energy has a sound for the ears equipped to hear them, that sound has light energy for those eyes, etc.

    By referencing the light energy within the waves, you are simply referencing the idea of the color as it coincides with your view of reality. The colors of light can be seen through diffraction, but it isn't until they are separated that you realize they were all contained within the same space and medium.
  • EnPassant
    667
    while physical spacetime as you call it is an emergent property of complex wave combinations as generated by the interaction of quantum fields, on some scales giving rise to what we recognize as shape (equilibrated superpositions?) and relative motion. Then what are waves an emergent property of?Enrique

    Good question. It is possible to dismantle matter so that you are left with energy. Is it possible to dismantle energy and find a deeper energy? And dismantle that to reach an even deeper energy? But this process cannot go on without end, it cannot be 'turtles all the way down'. Some ultimate existence must be reached. This substance is existence; ie that which always is.
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