i'd rather be killed — Gregory
Secularism, ladies and gentlemen! Nihilism in its truest form... — Gus Lamarch
In moments of secular weakness, I notice that people who really want to rescue these virtues and morals start popping up. — Gus Lamarch
Muslim — Gregory
Universal Declaration of Human Rights is far superior (and more specific) to anything that was ever produced by Christianity. — JerseyFlight
You will not even live in your own Christian world. It's too extreme, suffocating, dogmatic, primitive, lacking any kind of philosophical intelligence. — JerseyFlight
- Christianity is the basis of all western civilization today, and every advance, progress, freedom achieved, is thanks to the weakening of the dogmas of this same religion - secularism -. However, this same secularism decays - thanks to nihilism - and eventually causes this same society to collapse. To avoid this collapse, a rational belief in Christianity would be necessary, however - as this is practically impossible to achieve -, I opt for conscious-unconscious belief on the christian faith - if it worked for a 1000 years for europe, it should - in theory - work for us -. If you don't believe in Christianity, at least pretend to do so to legitimize your values, morals, and purposes. — Gus Lamarch
So what are you here engaged in, based on your own philosophy, juvenile provocations to appease the cravings of your ego. What you say is not serious, and neither is your manner of discourse, it is nothing more than an exercise in self-assertion to bolster delusional feelings of power. How could it not be, this is what you signed up for, mighty man, when you decided to reduce the world to the size of your ego. — JerseyFlight
I do not believe that Christianity, its symbolism, theology, values and morals were the cause of nihilism. The christian religion - codified, already absolutely finalized - in the catholic view - - has been and continues to be used as a political and social tool, and nihilism is the consequence of our evil intentions - in most cases - when using it. The only way for a concept to be projected into the world is through the individual, and the individual uses it as he sees fit. The cause is not in the concept, but in the vehicle of its projection into the world. — Gus Lamarch
Third time I quote myself here because people only read what agrees with them. — Gus Lamarch
Finally, the "revolutionary humanist" monster showed itself! — Gus Lamarch
I dont think people are picking up on what you are expecting them to. — DingoJones
(imagine this in a high, English style dialect, framed in a tone of up and down expression): Monstrous, you say, because I drew out the implications of your own egoism? I do say, I mean, after all, you are the one who accused yourself of it. I mean, where ever did you get the notion that it would be a good idea to lead with it as a description of yourself? — JerseyFlight
I think people are getting what they want from my answers. — Gus Lamarch
This person is a proof of it. — Gus Lamarch
So far only I have been the one to declare my point in how to adapt to theism. And it was through an "conscious-unconscious" belief in it. — Gus Lamarch
So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence. — Bertrand Russell
If I have to, I would do it. We are not yet at the point of time where forceful conversion is being made by the state. - — Gus Lamarch
I wonder whether Paul wrote this letter after he visited Athens. I suspect his encounter with the Athenian philosophers didn't go quite as well as it's said it did. — Ciceronianus the White
He believed that intelligence is too uncommon to allow humanity to live without the guidance of religion. — Janus
So secular martyr, bad. Christian martyr, good. Explain! — Gregory
but a universal Christianity is IMPOSSIBLE because they will be divided on that issue — Gregory
Culture isn't a Christian phenomenon. — jorndoe
Not if what they want is a clear answer. — DingoJones
How can a "secular martyr" exist if secular people don't have a purpose to die for, a way of life to die for, values to die for, etc... Secular people only have their own subjectiveness, — Gus Lamarch
I'm not defending the concept of an ecumenical church, but of Christianity as a whole, with all its ramifications - being it catholic, orthodox or protestant -. — Gus Lamarch
You don't even believe in the West in that case though! — Gregory
There came a point where the miracles, the resurrection, the immaculate conception, the trinity, the stories of the saints, the claim that Christianity was the only true path to salvation, couldn't be accepted as convincingly true — Ciceronianus the White
I think the traditional tenets or doctrine of Christianity are no longer believable in the "literal interpretation or meaning" to the educated and informed mind.But unfortunately (at least I think so) Christianity's emphasis and insistence on its peculiar beliefs overwhelmed its uncomfortable assimilation of pre-Christian philosophy, especially as far as its "flock" was concerned if not its shepards. So as Christian doctrine became unbelievable, and God was despaired of, nihilism and other alternatives were accepted by some. God being dead, all was permissible, etc.
So perhaps nihilism is the result of the failure of Christianity, or that failure contributed to it. — Ciceronianus the White
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