Could we say that the meaning of "the world as it is" depends on the context? The world has perceptible and imperceptible aspects, and on a day to day basis we usually want to talk about the world we perceive. — Daemon
I conclude that nobody can see the world as it is. — Daemon
Were sensory experience highly variable (such that some people perceived water as dry, fire as cool, thunder as a sucking sensation, and so on), we couldn't say the world is as we see it. — Bitter Crank
Because we have reliable, repeatable, valid sensory experience of the world, we can say we see the world as it is. — Bitter Crank
I’ve always been under the impression that’s exactly the opposite of what “as it is” implies, which technically expands to “as it is in itself”. — Mww
It's a misunderstanding to think that metaphysics has been eliminated from philosophy. — Janus
Yeats' poem, The Second Coming, suggests what it would be like if the 'much different and true reality' should become perceptible:
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world — Bitter Crank
Yeats' poem, The Second Coming, suggests what it would be like if the 'much different and true reality' should become perceptible: — Bitter Crank
Did you read the section on the 'New Metaphysics'? There are plenty of philosophers working in that area. — Janus
Yes, and indeed there are. It was a comment on this particular thread, and some of the gormless and jejune naive realism that's been on display here. — Wayfarer
"gormless" is a lovely word. I've only read it here. — Bitter Crank
I'm not familiar with Eustis; but it's a good story (apropo). Thanks. — Bitter Crank
in the novel Van Gogh saw through the eyes of Eustis once, and tried to paint the world as seen by the gods — Olivier5
The world has perceptible and imperceptible aspects, and on a day to day basis we usually want to talk about the world we perceive. — Daemon
I conclude that nobody can see the world as it is. — Daemon
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