it may not be interesting to you, but I find it interesting that there isn't agreement on the issue. — Coben

But if the source of disagreement is that we are just talking past each other, then that isn't really a disagreement is it?

I tend to agree, but some things are much harder to put into words than others. Like 'the meaning of a dream'. — Coben

What do you mean, "meaning of a dream"? How are you using "meaning"? How is the meaning of a dream different than the meaning of a drunken stupor?

I think anything I consider as something an animal believes can be put into a statement. — Coben

Is anything you consider as something an animal believes equivalent to the animal's belief, or is it best understood as an account thereof?