It is curious to me, O Possible One, that you failed to address my second question in your last post: is Rovelli’s theory not compromised by its own self?
Whether his theory is a temporal or atemporal “event” is of no matter, for the atemporal ones, as you have said, only have significance to us in their relation to the temporal ones...and it is all a mishmash of indeterminate “potentiality”...
So, I ask again in a different way: why do you adhere to the theory of a man who acknowledges that human thought is based on uncertifiable certainties? And if all thought is so uncertain, how can we be motivated to think or act in our world? — Todd Martin
The surprise has been that, in the emergence of familiar aspects of time, we ourselves have had a role to play. From our perspective - the perspective of creatures who make up a small part of the world - we see that world flowing in time. Our interaction with the world is partial, which is why we see it in a blurred way. To this blurring is added quantum indeterminacy. The ignorance that follows from this determines the existence of a particular variable - thermal time - and of an entropy that quantifies our uncertainty. — Carlo Rovelli, ‘The Order of Time’
...but now I do go there, Mr. Possible, and I find myself drawn to ask you a rather personal question: what was your family life like? Describe your upbringing, if you are willing... — Todd Martin
You say that the only compliment you heard as a little girl was that you were beautiful...which suggests to me that you felt under-appreciated for your intellect (?)... — Todd Martin
Why was your older brother considered the “real future” of the family? — Todd Martin
Finally, a dad who was a recovering alcoholic with a violent temper must have been difficult, if not painful, to deal with as a child; how did you and your sisters deal with it? — Todd Martin
Wouldn’t you agree though that you already live by bowing to the common rules that the society you live in sets for all its members? In a sense, your true household is that society...
If you want to proscribe your household into the confines of your particular domicile, then, in order to follow your own rules there, you must either have no housemate, or have one willing to follow your rules. — Todd Martin
What was your mother like? Was she resentful about having to be a stay-at-home mom and not being allowed to pursue a career? — Todd Martin
Okay, so, am I correct to assume that, since your mom responded to the MeToo movement, that y’all are Aborigines?... — Todd Martin
So, it is easy for me to see how your mom wished to create the “perfect family”, and participate in that...but, what did your dad wish to escape from HIS childhood? What was his upbringing like? — Todd Martin
Finally, my apologies—and I hope that my offense is seen as a peccadillo, not as a crime. — Todd Martin
It should be obvious in which camp I suspected you to be, and that is the reason for me asking these questions...though I must confess that, from what I have learned, you are a much more complex subject for analysis than I would ever have suspected. — Todd Martin
I agree with you that pain and suffering are necessary ingredients of life, and I believe that was a point of contention earlier in this thread, when the OP was still around (it seems that you and I have, however, hi jacked this thread, and it must seem a bit strange to those looking into it for the first time and comparing what is being said in it now with how it began). — Todd Martin
An ongoing state of happiness, as you termed it, is impossible, and if there be an happy human being, he or she too must suffer sometimes. But it must follow, mustn’t it, that if that is true, and there exist a happy human being in principle at least, that his or her happiness depend upon something more substantial and lasting than things like physical comfort or security or pleasure (?) — Todd Martin
Forgive me if it is not natural for me to draw the conclusion that the “host of fears” your mother instilled in you as a child must have sprung from her abuse at the hands of those whom a child most obviously can be expected to trust...yet you, as a child or even as a young adult, did not know the source of those fears. I would like to learn, if you are willing, how those fears were transmitted to you, how they manifested themselves in your soul and affected your behavior, and how you were able to overcome them. — Todd Martin
Finally, I would be very interested to learn what impact your mother’s revelation, at the ripe old age of 80, had on you children, and the family, and it’s friends, in general. And how could she have kept it a secret for so long?...or did she? Did anyone else other than the participants know? — Todd Martin
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