• Leontiskos
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    (I've been thinking about making this thread for a long time. If @Jamal or the mods think it is unnecessary or inappropriate for any reason, they are welcome to delete this thread.)

    This is a thread where you can stage threads. Oftentimes a tangential topic arises within a thread and many of the participants can see that a new thread would be the best place for the tangential topic. Still, given that there are a handful of people involved in the discussion, it often feels presumptuous to begin a new thread on your own, framing it as you wish without the input of the other participants. Of course one could go to a PM to stage the new thread with the tangential topic, but the staging discussion is essentially public, not private, and a public record of the staging is all to the good.

    I suppose one could also use this thread to stage a new thread that is not based on a tangential discussion. Or to propose a thread and see if anyone would actually be interested in discussing it. Or to gauge interest in a reading group, etc.

    (Example to follow...)
  • Leontiskos
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    I will write the first post. This is meant to be an example for the Staging Area, but maybe we actually do want a new thread. Maybe we don't.

    Step 1. Identify the thread and tag those who are participating in the tangential topic.

    Thread: The End of Woke
    Participants: @Antony Nickles, @AmadeusD, @Fire Ologist, and perhaps @Count Timothy von Icarus and @Joshs


    Step 2. Propose or query the idea of a new thread as a means to framing the issue correctly and fairly. Proposing thread titles will be especially helpful. Optionally, one may wish to open a discussion about whether a new thread is necessary.

    Hey guys, judging from posts like , , and , it looks like we might have a tangential topic arising within the thread, "The End of Woke." Would it be worthwhile to split the tangent off into a separate thread? If so, how should we frame the new topic? [Insert Leontiskos' starting point for framing the issue here]

    ...I will actually give a truncated starting point for framing this tangential topic. If I had more time I would write something a bit longer...

    The tangent seems to be related to intractable disagreements and how to navigate them. It pertains to the move wherein one implores their interlocutors to shift to a meta-level in order to clarify more fundamental issues or disagreements.

    If we did want a new thread for this tangential topic, here are some possible titles. Please add more:

    1. Situating goals and interests within practical reason
    2. What is the relation between understanding and judgment?
    3. How do we argue across differing paradigms?
    4. How do we situate interests within political debates?
    5. How do we navigate intractable disagreements?
    6. Is it possible to navigate intractable disagreements? Do they exist?

    [Note that the starting point that @Leontiskos is offering may be highly biased towards his own way of construing the tangent, which is precisely why the Staging Area could be useful.]
  • Metaphysician Undercover
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    Interesting.

    I'd like to propose another thread, where we can stage ideas which we may or may not want to bring into this thread to discuss whether we want to create another thread for them? Do you think that someone would start another thread after that, to discuss whether certain ideas ought to be entered into my thread?
  • Sir2u
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    A thread where people can layout, without excessive detail, the basic idea, limits and objectives of a thread they would like to create would be an option. Others could vote on whether they would consider participating in it.

    Depending on the results the poster would then decide if the work is worth the effort.

    Example:
    I believe that the earth is flat and would like to present the reasons I have for discussion. :rofl:
  • Leontiskos
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    Right, and I was thinking more in terms of breaking off a tangent from an existing thread, but it could also be used to survey interest in an altogether new topic. :up:

    I just wanted to make this thread available for future use.
  • Count Timothy von Icarus
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    When I have a bit more time in a few weeks I was interested in doing a reading group on "The Joy of the Knife. Nietzschean Glorification of Crime," a chapter from Ishay Landa's book "The Overman in The Marketplace: Nietzschean Heroism in Popular Culture." It's quite accessible and on a widely interesting topic (pop culture). It's also free online: https://www.academia.edu/35763426/The_Joy_of_the_Knife_Nietzschean_Glorification_of_Crime

    But I figured I'd share it now.
  • Leontiskos
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    Nice. I might be interested in that reading group. I will download the chapter and give it a look. :up:
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