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this is just to give an alternate formal definition of "future" and "past", as if a sentence were "future" when the outermost tense operator is F. — Banno
But there is a sense in which this is already to assume Hume's law. To define what we ought do as fragile is to presume that it is distinct from what is the case, that we can clearly seperate normative sentences from descriptive sentences.
The danger is that Russell presumes rather than demonstrates Hume's law. In which case she will have provided a powerful way for us to talk about deontic logic but not have settled the issue. — Banno
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A sentence with a tense operator does not automatically become about that temporal location. Pp ⊨ FPp is about p, not the future (or the past). — J
There are various ways to formalise ought. The simplest is just to adopt an operator "Oρ", roughly "we ought ρ". Whether they fail or not depends on what one is doing with them. The advantage of formalising language is that the consistency of what we say is made clear. There is more than one way to formalise "ought", each perhaps brining to the fore a different aspect. I wouldn't count this as a "failure". The task for Russell is to find an account that can avoid question begging.Similar attempts to standardize ordinary-language uses of "ought" also have failed, as far as I know. — J
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It's clearly about sets of sentences....when of a sudden I am surpriz’d to find, that instead of the usual copulations of propositions, is, and is not, I meet with no proposition that is not connected with an ought, or an ought not. — Hume, Treatise, Bk. III, Pt. I, §1
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Entailment is a characteristic not of individual sentences, but of sets of sentences. — Banno
One of the ways of setting out a obligation in first order logic is to simply incorporate an operator, O. Op is then just "One ought p" — Banno
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Nor should you be. There is certainly more going on here. But what we can do is set out some minimal requirement, and at the very least we do say for some sentences that we ought do as they say.I'm still not very happy with this. — J
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Don't we need to better understand what "ought" means in ordinary language before we can be sure that "O" (and all the formal moves we can make with O) captures this? — J
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