Why is there so little attention given on this thread/forum to the Epstein case?

A clear picture is being painted of a decades-spanning extortion and blackmailing racket ran by Epstein and his wife, whose job it was to collect dirt on all sorts of high-profile people from all over the world. Both Jeffrey and Ghislaine have deep ties to the CIA, MI6 and Mossad, leading me to believe this was a state-run enterprise.

Another party that is curiously implicated seems to be the Rothschild family, which Epstein literally calls himself a representative of in one of the leaked e-mails.

If you want to understand who pulls the strings in your country (and perhaps in mine also, unfortunately), this is where you start looking.

I think people are still digesting what was released last week. Also there are sources you can go to find out all this stuff. But I wouldn’t start going on about that here, I would probably be painting myself as a conspiracy theorist. I would agree with what you’re suggesting here and I can understand why Epstein (of someone else) put a rope around his neck.
The Rothschild connection sounds interesting, do you have a link?

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I agree to an extent. The Monroe doctrine doesn't extend across the pond though. Thankfully.

Yes. I had a nice and interesting exchange of ideas with you both, and I agree mostly with everything except that we are not militarily relevant globally nor do we have a strong say in Brussels.

I'm joking. I am pretty aware of the limitations of the peninsula I live in. :rofl:

Ireland hardly fares any better. Probably worse in that we're highly compromised and dependent on American tech.

It’s true; Europe has grown dependent on the US for many reasons, most of which is the American government’s fault. Good or bad, living generations of people in both continents have to deal with these conditions.

The prime minister is the president of the Socialist International and from the Spanish Socialist Workers Party. That’s what we call a “commie” over here. This entire thread is about calling Trump a fascist and Americans dumb Nazis-lovers. Hell, I was called a fascist a page or two back. Please allow me this one…

Fair enough. :up:

I think things could be friendlier if we were all a little less reactive. Part of the problem I see is that it is highly profitable in the economic sphere for us to be so (see, click, see, click). This tends to pollute everything, especially online conversation.

Ain’t that the truth.

The prime minister is the president of the Socialist International and from the Spanish Socialist Workers Party. That’s what we call a “commie” over here. — NOS4A2

I understand your view. Yet, PSOE (Spanish Socialist Workers Party) gave up on Communism and Marxism after winning the 1982 elections because they wanted to make Spain a member of both the EU and NATO. It is hard to explain because it is true that they still use "socialist" in their acronym, but they always repeat that they are a social-democratic political party inspired by the left-wing parties of Sweden and the Labour Party of the UK. I do not think these are real commies in the pure sense of the word. Furthermore, there are more leftist political parties in the Congress which accuse PSOE of being neoliberal. Imagine those! These are real commies: United Left.

I have never called you a fascist. Believe it or not, I agree with you on many of your points – mainly when you claim that European countries have grown very dependent on the USA. This is true.

It is just that I didn't get why the news of documenting 500,000 people here went around the world. I think some folks exaggerated on his reactions towards this.

Over here many use the term “commie” in the pejorative sense to describe basically anything left-of-center. My use of the terms wasn’t necessarily a description of his values, only that he is going to try to subvert the prevailing global orthodoxy with some far-left theatrics.

For instance his latest move is one of them. I’m not aware of the laws over there, but over here there are tedious and lengthy processes to becoming a citizen, and this is true of many nation states. It can take years to become a citizen. Documenting the undocumented on such a large scale is to make a mockery of that effort, and the many who go through that effort (myself included). Many have been jailed or deported based for far less.

The process is tedious and slow here too. I think there is a misinterpretation of the concepts. Sanchez is conceding the citizenship to 500,000 immigrants, yes. But this is not equal to becoming Spanish. It is just that these persons are now documented to be hired legally in the labour market. Without these papers, they are hard to hire, and if they are, many businessmen exploit them because they are not in a current legal status. My view about this is that Sánchez wanted to make a movement against the employers. After this, those people now have the right to be hired in better conditions.

But it is important to clarify that they do not have the right to vote in the Spanish elections, nor do they start receiving grants. This is a lie.