• Questioner
    565
    That’s right. The former Governor of the Bank of England and now Prime Minister of Canada photographed with child-sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell, just hanging out at music festival in 2013. No big deal.NOS4A2

    By all accounts, they were not "hanging out." They barely knew one another. In the Epstein files, there is no direct communication between Epstein and Carney. What you're presenting here is not even a good try. So transparently desperate to take the heat off where it should be.

    You do understand that Trump and his administration is engaged in an active cover-up of the largest sex-trafficking scandal and influence pedaling scandal in US history?
  • NOS4A2
    10.2k


    I don’t think Carney is guilty of anything. Epstein and Ghislaine had their hands in all elite circles, world wide. Of course the pictures prove nothing. But as you and the media have proven, none of that matters. Pictures of Trump and Epstein are often the only one’s shown in news articles, and especially in this thread. But so far it appears Trump is the only one who called the police, and one of the first.
  • Questioner
    565
    Pictures of Trump and EpsteinNOS4A2

    You're completely ignoring Trump's actions. You're completely ignoring the cover-up. You're completely ignoring a vast body of information that shows Trump is a scumbag.
  • NOS4A2
    10.2k


    You're completely ignoring Trump's actions. You're completely ignoring the cover-up. You're completely ignoring a vast body of information that shows Trump is a scumbag.

    Like I said, I'm very interested in how this is spun. If you read the ABC article, it appears they are insinuating Trump is a liar for saying he didn't know about Epstein's abuse. It won't be long before they'll start condemning Trump as a rat and a bad friend.
  • Questioner
    565
    It won't be long before they'll start condemning Trump as a rat and a bad friend.NOS4A2

    Maybe he is?

    Anyway, about that bridge ... still waiting on your response to that.
  • NOS4A2
    10.2k
    I knew it. Like clockwork, the spin has begun. It's fascinating how the anti-Trump mind works.

  • Questioner
    565
    It's fascinating how the anti-Trump mind works.NOS4A2

    I consider it the pro-truth mind.
  • AmadeusD
    4.2k
    He's specifically talking about Trump's actions.
  • Questioner
    565
    A member of Congress has confirmed that Trump's name is in the Epstein files over a million times.

    Raskin had access to the unredacted files.
  • Questioner
    565
    “What’s happening in Minnesota is wrong. There are no shades of grey.”

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUlCU-Uig_2/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
  • ssu
    9.8k
    Also worth noting that to anyone who knows anything about Chomsky, his relationship with Epstein is a nothingburger.Mikie
    Again you missed my point. For Epstein it was splendid to have connections with intellectuals and academicians. Chomsky obviously thought that the Mr Epstein was a decent man.
  • ssu
    9.8k
    I knew it. Like clockwork, the spin has begun.NOS4A2
    Yep, you are here to defend Trump!

    So @NOS4A2, are you as excited about Kash Patel as you were when he was made FBI director?
  • AmadeusD
    4.2k
    It's been revealed he called the police on Epstein, barred him from Mar-A-Largo, no one has credibly accused him of anything untoward, your mate Cameron had to retract what he said and give an admirably full-throated apology to Trump for his erroneous and libelous claims on CNN. The one statement people seem to be relying on was from a case years and years ago where the Witness tells of Trump not doing anything wrong. In this case, yes, his name will come up a lot.

    It seems odd to want the CIC to be a pedophile Questioner.
  • Mikie
    7.3k
    I guess I’m one of the few who never really cared that much about Jeffrey Epstein. I think he trafficked women and was a sleazeball and fraud, but other than a handful of people truly guilty of participating, I don’t get the hysteria. Doesn’t look like Trump did anything terrible, or many others in there. Much like Madoff, he fooled many high profile people.

    But I do like to see Trump get irritated by the persistence of those who turned the story into something much bigger than it is.
  • AmadeusD
    4.2k
    Yep, nice. He is still the loser here in many ways.
  • NOS4A2
    10.2k


    So @NOS4A2, are you as excited about Kash Patel as you were when he was made FBI director?

    Is that back when you said the FBI was going to collapse under his leadership? I’ll give you my answer in two more years.
  • Punshhh
    3.6k
    Who is the person Carney’s wife is talking to in these photos back in 2013?

    https://www.shutterstock.com/editorial/search/set%3a2798828
    There is a photo of some children being trafficked in a toy cart. So it might be damning evidence after all.
  • Michael
    16.8k


    That's weird, because according to this from 2019:

    Trump Organization attorney Alan Garten told Politico in 2017 that Mr Trump "had no relationship with Mr. Epstein and had no knowledge whatsoever of his conduct". Mr Garten added this week that Mr Epstein was banned from Mar-a-Lago since the criminal charges were filed against him.

    When asked on Sunday about the charges against Mr Epstein, Mr Trump told reporters "I don't know about it".

    Although, from your own article:

    A Department of Justice official told ABC News in a statement that the agency was "not aware of any corroborating evidence that the President contacted law enforcement 20 years ago."

    So who the hell knows.
  • Questioner
    565
    Even if you give Trump the benefit of the doubt (a stretch) that he was not a co-conspirator with Epstein, he is still a co-conspirator now in the massive ongoing cover-up

    His FBI scrubbed the files and his DOJ inappropriately redacted the files in order to protect rich and powerful men from accountability
  • Christoffer
    2.5k
    His FBI scrubbed the files and his DOJ inappropriately redacted the files in order to protect rich and powerful men from accountabilityQuestioner

    What is the punishment for such crimes? What does the law say about such acts?
  • Questioner
    565
    What is the punishment for such crimes? What does the law say about such acts?Christoffer

    Well, the Supreme Court went and gave him immunity.

    Did I read that Clarence Thomas is in the files?
  • Questioner
    565
    More about the Gordie Howe Bridge and Trump’s attempt to halt its opening – it seems that Howard Lutnik met with the owners of the old bridge – a billionaire family who doesn’t want to see the new bridge succeed, because that will cut into their bottom line – just before Trump made his insane post

    The corruption is so blatant

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUmrG9DDsup/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
  • Metaphysician Undercover
    14.8k
    The first thing China will do is terminate ALL Ice Hockey being played in Canada, and permanently eliminate The Stanley Cup.Questioner

    I love this line. It just demonstrates Trump's MO, of saying whatever he thinks might get people riled up. If he was a little bit more in tune with what Canadians actually worry about, he might have said that China would close all Tim Hortons. Then he could even claim that he would step in, and interfere for Canada, preventing them from closing Timmy's, so long as he could rebrand the chain as "Don Trumps". Then Canadians would all be buying their coffees from Donny's.

    The dislike that Canadians have for Trump is quite deep. He came into Toronto with a grand scheme for Trump Toronto, along with big Russian financing. He paid himself shit loads of Russian money, went bankrupt, and left the locals with a whole lot of unpaid bills. How anyone could "lose money" on a real estate deal in Toronto at that time, is unimaginable.
  • Questioner
    565
    It just demonstrates Trump's MOMetaphysician Undercover

    Dishonest huckster

    Copied from a post this morning made by the Canadian CBC -

    So apparently the President of the United States needed a civics refresher this morning.

    After Donald Trump publicly threatened to block the opening of the Gordie Howe International Bridge, Prime Minister Mark Carney had to personally explain some very basic facts to him:

    • Canada paid 100% of the construction costs (roughly $4 billion)
    • The bridge is jointly owned by Canada and the state of Michigan
    • It was built with union labour and steel from both countries
    • It supports over 12,000 jobs, including nearly 9,000 American workers
    • It will save commercial trucks hundreds of thousands of hours every year, easing congestion and strengthening trade

    And yet Trump is still floating the idea that the U.S. should “own at least half” the bridge, delay its opening, or demand toll revenue Canada is using to recover the costs it alone paid.

    This isn’t a misunderstanding.
    It’s pressure.

    Infrastructure as leverage.
    Trade as coercion.
    Economic threats dressed up as “fairness.”

    Even Republican officials in Michigan are warning that blocking the bridge would hurt U.S. workers and hand a massive win to the billionaire owners of the aging Ambassador Bridge, who have spent years trying to kill this project to protect their monopoly…

    So let’s talk about the bigger questions:

    What does Canadian sovereignty mean if our infrastructure can be threatened with a signature?
    How should Canada respond when economic bullying replaces diplomacy?
    Who benefits when public infrastructure is delayed or sabotaged?


    https://www.instagram.com/p/DUmaGHbEz0J/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
  • Questioner
    565
    Thoughtful people are turning their backs on MAGA.

    Their sentiments are captured in a song recently released by Jack Nelson -

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n65LKnbA3Y0&list=RDn65LKnbA3Y0&start_radio=1

    Here's the lyrics -

    Red Hat

    [Verse 1]
    It hung by the door on a rusty old nail,
    A symbol of pride in a small-town tale.
    I wore it through fields, through rallies and rain,
    But now it just carries a shadow of shame.

    [Chorus]
    So I'm burning my red hat, watching it glow,
    The fire eats the lies I didn't want to know.
    I can't stand with a man who divides and deceives,
    Burning my red hat, I'm setting myself free.

    [Verse 2]
    He said he'd fight for the working man’s hand,
    But his words turned to dust, just smoke in the sand.
    Turns out his promises were built on the backs,
    Of fear and of hate, and I'm done with all that.

    [Prechorus]
    I can’t unsee the truth I’ve found,
    No more blind faith, no sticking around.

    [Chorus]
    So I'm burning my red hat, watching it glow,
    The fire eats the lies I didn't want to know.
    I can't stand with a man who protects the obscene,
    Burning my red hat, and all that it means.

    [Bridge]
    Ashes rise like a prayer in the night,
    For the ones he’s wronged, for what’s still right.
    I’ll stand for justice, not for his show,
    The flame’s my witness, now the world will know.
  • NOS4A2
    10.2k


    Trump Organization attorney Alan Garten told Politico in 2017 that Mr Trump "had no relationship with Mr. Epstein and had no knowledge whatsoever of his conduct". Mr Garten added this week that Mr Epstein was banned from Mar-a-Lago since the criminal charges were filed against him.

    When asked on Sunday about the charges against Mr Epstein, Mr Trump told reporters "I don't know about it".

    Sometimes you just don’t want anyone to know you’re an informant. Do you suspect something nefarious?

    So who the hell knows.

    Then the sheriff of Palm Beach must have lied to the FBI, which is a crime. Anything to keep the dream alive, I guess.
  • Michael
    16.8k
    Sometimes you just don’t want anyone to know you’re an informant. Do you suspect something nefarious?NOS4A2

    I suspect that we can never trust anything Trump or his lawyers say about the matter.

    Then the sheriff of Palm Beach must have lied to the FBI, which is a crime.NOS4A2

    Well it's a little peculiar that the sheriff in charge of the investigation didn't include this in any contemporaneous notes during the investigation, or call Trump in to be interviewed about what exactly he knows. How often does someone call the police to tell them that they know that someone is raping children, and then it's just left at that?
  • Punshhh
    3.6k
    How often does someone call the police to tell them that they know that someone is raping children, and then it's just left at that?
    The cops were already looking into Epstein, when the alleged phone call was made. Someone must have tipped Trump off and he called the Sheriff and tried to make out that it was he who was informing the Sheriff’s office that Epstein was a pedo’.
    While prior to that Epstein was frequenting Mara Lago, presumably supplying girls (adult girls) for his party’s.
  • Michael
    16.8k
    The cops were already looking into Epstein, when the alleged phone call was made.Punshhh

    Yeah, that's why it's weird. Someone calls claiming to have knowledge that would help the investigation, and then it's never followed up and never mentioned until 13 years later.

    Also if Trump thinks Maxwell is "evil" then why allow her to move to a minimum security prison against standard protocol, and why refuse to rule out a pardon? Does he genuinely think that the evidence that led to her conviction does not prove her to be as "evil" as he thinks/knows she is?
  • AmadeusD
    4.2k
    Lets keep those goal posts moving! More speculation! MORE condemnation!

    One would think a rational person would be relieved.
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