Threads aren't supposed to be merely long strings of PMs. — Bitter Crank
What? Don't be obtuse. Guns are sufficient for self-defense. Dispute that claim or go away. — Thorongil
Perhaps. But the militias, as I understand it, were at the service of government; primarily state and local but also, in some instances, the federal government. So, for example, state militia were provided by the governors of certain states to put down the "Whiskey Rebellion." — Ciceronianus the White
It seems now that the militias envisioned by some are to be available in opposition to the government. — Ciceronianus the White
has been excited about modified military weapons which it would be hard to characterize as being for hunting and recreation — Ciceronianus the White
And my point is that, in addition to being sufficient, guns are the best means of self-defense in many cases. — Thorongil
were dedicated to the normalization of guns in public and domestic settings — Bitter Crank
Excepting bump stocks, most of these modifications are cosmetic in nature. I think it's kind of silly, to say the least, to ban guns that "look" like scary military weapons, when in fact they're not. — Thorongil
It would be even sillier, and indeed creepy, I think, to want to own one because it looks like a scary military weapon. — Ciceronianus the White
Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. — Noah Webster, 1787
It remains to be seen whether this is true today -- one hopes it will not be put to a test. If the hundred million (give or take a few million) Americans were to revolt and turn their guns on the military, I am not sure they would win. — Bitter Crank
So, if I agree with you that the founding fathers wanted an armed citizenry, provided the citizenry wished to be armed, can you see the sense in placing a ceiling on the kind of arms that the citizenry can have? — Bitter Crank
Were the The Kardashians trashy when Deep Space 9 conceived Cardassians?? — Bitter Crank
If you insist on playing this game, I guess banning guns makes all the rape, murder, and theft that people would have otherwise been able to ward off with a gun okay. I'm sure they'll find some solace in being scapegoats for "the greater good" and the moral consciences of The Philosophy Forum mod team. — Thorongil
Gunshot wounds were associated with about eight times higher fatality rate than stab wounds, a pattern that is consistent with others’ findings.
A third of patients with gunshot wounds (33.0 percent) died compared with 7.7 percent of patients with stab wounds.
Specifically, the mortality rate of gunshot wound of the heart 24.5% and that of stab wound of the heart, 11.5%. Because of the complexity of the injury, gunshot wound of the heart has the highest mortality rate.
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