You might look up what DC v. Heller decided. Sorry, but your continued attempts to describe the possibilities I listed as - to take just a few adjectives that you have presently chosen to deluge me with so as to paint me as a raving lunatic - "imaginary," "unrealistic," and "fantastic," don't hold up. I wouldn't call being one supreme court vote away from losing the individual right to bear arms any of those things. — Thorongil
So if members of the left assert - like you yourself - that for strategical reason things must be started with small gradual changes, how is that a leap? — Agustino
The leap is from "repeal of second amendment" to "ban on all guns". — Michael
Well two things. First of all, they state that their intention is to ban same-sex marriage but not the other kind of marriage. In this other case, some of the leftists openly state that the intention is to ban all guns, but that should be approached by gradual change. So the situations are not similar.Are those who argue that the first amendment doesn't protect the right of any adult to marry planning to ban marriage in its entirety? Or do they just wish to allow for bans on certain types of marriage (e.g. same-sex marriage)? — Michael
No, you're right, it doesn't entail it. But do some people on the left want to ban all guns, and intend to do this via the route of gradual change?Wanting to repeal the second amendment so that greater restrictions on gun control can be put in place doesn't entail wanting to ban all guns. — Michael
Second of all, marriage is defined as between a man and a woman so there isn't even a problem. — Agustino
No, you're right, it doesn't entail it. But do some people on the left want to ban all guns, and intend to do this via the route of gradual change? — Agustino
Isn't it illegal in the UK to buy a knife of any kind if you're under 18? Isn't it true that knives are highly regulated, and there have even been calls for total bans on any knife that comes to a point? — Wosret
How long before you have to be 18 to be legally allowed to use safety scissors, with gloves on?
>:O . It's an interesting paradox. Some think it's safer if everyone has weapons, and others that it's safer if no one has weapons.Obviously some will never be pleased until they get personal nukes, and others won't be until we all can't leave the house without helmets, and permanently attached over mitts — Wosret
Second of all, marriage is defined as between a man and a woman so there isn't even a problem. — Agustino
Sure, but many of them are simply concerned about marriage being the words that are used, and the fact that religious groups are forced to recognise these unions. Apart from that, no issue.Whatever the current legal status of their relationship, it isn't marriage, and so those who oppose it have nothing to worry about (and nothing to ban). — Michael
Sure, but the issue is that this gobbledygook can impinge on the freedom of religious organisations since they will be expected to recognise these new gobbledygook forms of marriage.We're free to speak gobbledygook. — Michael
they are obliged (or can be obliged) to officiate marriage ceremonies — Agustino
or recognise the couple as married.
No, people are free to associate as they wish, and live together with whoever they wish.Would it be a problem if same-sex couples are allowed to be issued so-called-but-not-really-marriage licenses but that religious institutions are not required to officiate such unions? — Michael
Recognising a couple as married (from the point of view of religious institutions) means according them the status of married in a religious sense - meaning holding religious ceremonies to recognise their marriage.What does it mean to recognise a couple as married? — Michael
Recognising a couple as married (from the point of view of religious institutions) means according them the status of married in a religious sense - meaning holding religious ceremonies to recognise their marriage. — Agustino
Moral principles are important to be freely chosen or imparted, otherwise it is just tyranny, and slavery. I — Wosret
many of them are simply concerned about marriage being the words that are used — Agustino
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