• creativesoul
    11.9k
    Yup. That's the one...
  • Shawn
    13.2k
    Things are getting more and more interesting.
  • creativesoul
    11.9k
    Aren't they?

    This is beginning to make Watergate look like a petty crime...
  • Shawn
    13.2k
    This is beginning to make Watergate look like a petty crime...creativesoul

    Oh, if we had the tapes that were available under Watergate, this whole thing would be over in no time. At least Mueller is doing a tedious job. Just hope Trump doesn't resign before then.
  • creativesoul
    11.9k
    Trump won't resign. He could be prosecuted then.
  • Shawn
    13.2k
    Trump won't resign. He could be prosecuted then.creativesoul

    Hah, serves him right!
  • creativesoul
    11.9k
    Ah...

    I find it unacceptable to cheer about the fall of anyone.

    That is not to say that the world would not be a better place if lots of folk fell. Rather, it is to know that we all have no real choice in either our own cognitive ability or our first worldview...
  • Shawn
    13.2k
    The truth has been spoken.
  • Wayfarer
    22.5k
    From where I sit, I think there have hardly been any major Trump fiascos since the Charlottesville fiasco. And that, I take to be the doing of General John. He's got a tight leash, not on Trump - nobody does that - but on those around him, who fan the flames, whisper in his ear, and try and influence his thinking (which is not difficult). The latest Trump news is his deal with the Dems, which is actually (swallows hard) a Good Thing. But at any rate, the constant barrage of unforced errors seems to have abated somewhat.
  • Michael
    15.6k
    Still sticking to this? Things aren't looking good for Manafort.
  • Michael
    15.6k
    First charges filed in Mueller investigation

    Guess he found something. Must be Manafort.
  • Wayfarer
    22.5k
    Pleased to see my post above was accurate for about .0003 milliseconds.
  • Wayfarer
    22.5k
    Today, on the eve of eventual action, Trump is frantically tweeting that it's Crooked Hillary that ought to be investigated, that the Russia Investigation is all a conspiracy between the Fake News and Enemies of the State to stop Trump Making America Great.

    The troubling this is that (a) Trump clearly believes he is above the law and (2) there would be no possible way of ever explaining to him the real issues. He is incapable of grasping the complexities.

    If he weren't President - it wouldn't matter.
  • Wayfarer
    22.5k
    "Ty Cobb, the White House lawyer handling the response to the Russia investigation, said that the president’s tweets were “unrelated to the activities of the special counsel, with whom he continues to cooperate.” ~ Washington Post.

    'Dissimulation
    dɪˌsɪmjʊˈleɪʃ(ə)n
    noun
    1. concealment of one's thoughts, feelings, or character; pretence.
    "an attempt at dissimulation"
    synonyms: pretence, dissembling, misrepresentation, deceit, dishonesty, duplicity, lying, guile, subterfuge, feigning, falsification, shamming, faking, bluff, bluffing, counterfeiting, posturing, hypocrisy, double-dealing.'
  • Hand In Hand
    7
    a good little soldierRich

    Reminds me of the song toy soldiers from Eminem.
  • Agustino
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    Hahahaha!!! Has the new check from Crooked Foundation arrived on your doorstep? You will see that Trump will be vindicated.
  • Agustino
    11.2k
    Putin is right @Wayfarer - people like you are being disrespectful to all the people who have elected Donald Trump, and who have legitimacy to rule over America as they see fit now that they've won. You are denying the will of the people, by being a sore loser.
  • Michael
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    Has the new check from Crooked Foundation arrived on your doorstep? You will see that Trump will be vindicated.Agustino

    Has the cheque from the Trump Foundation arrived on your doorstep?
  • Agustino
    11.2k
    Has your cheque from the Trump Foundation arrived on your doorstep?Michael
    Alas, I wouldn't have said anything had I not seen Wayfarer being back to his old self, spreading propaganda.
  • Baden
    16.3k


    Luckily you would never dream of spreading Trump propaganda. When you do it, it's just telling the truth! ;)
  • Agustino
    11.2k
    Are these numbers fake? 26% growth in DJI, less than one year. By the 1 year mark, we may well see 33% or higher! GDP growth highest in last 2 years and just over 3%! These are the numbers anti-Trump folk don't want others to see.

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  • Michael
    15.6k
    What is that supposed to show? Here's the last 5 years:

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    The stock market tends to go up.
  • Agustino
    11.2k
    Why does it suddenly go up at a faster rate ever since Trump was elected?! :-d :-}
  • Michael
    15.6k
    I assume because investors believe that Trump will cut down on regulations that will allow them to make even more money, and so investor confidence is high?
  • Agustino
    11.2k
    2014-2016 when Obama was big boss, there was almost 0% change.

    I assume because investors believe that Trump will cut down on regulations that will allow them to make even more money, and so investor confidence is high?Michael
    Right exactly. That's good. People are getting excited about doing business in America again.
  • Baden
    16.3k


    Of course, Wall St is going to benefit from deregulation and promised tax breaks. Note that the benefits are going to the rich. As for the second statistic, Obama had 3% quarters too. So what? You have about an overall 2.1% growth rate under Trump so far. Talk about fake news...

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trumps-first-9-months-the-economy-and-markets-are-ok-but-not-the-greatest-ever-2017-10-20
  • Agustino
    11.2k
    Regulation always hits hardest on small businesses, not big businesses. In fact, regulations often protect big business and create barriers to entry that smaller peeps can't compete against. Bet you didn't know that ;)

    -but-not-the-greatest-ever-2017-10-20Baden
    I never said they were greatest ever, but they are very good, despite the left trying to claim Trump is incapable. And yes, Obama had even 5% quarter.
  • Michael
    15.6k
    I never said they were greatest ever, but they are very good, despite the left trying to claim Trump is incapable.Agustino

    He is incapable. Investors believing that he'll implement policies that will benefit them isn't the same as being capable.
  • Michael
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    Regulation always hits hardest on small businesses, not big businesses. In fact, regulations often protect big business and create barriers to entry that smaller peeps can't compete against. Bet you didn't know thatAgustino

    Regulations protect workers, consumers, and the environment.
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