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SonJnana         
         
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anonymous66         
         Why pick on Agnostics and their view of God? What of skeptics and their view of knowledge?So I think people are "paralyzed" by agnosticism. They don't know how to live life as an agnostic. — darthbarracuda
JustSomeGuy         
         Agnostic: I believe knowledge of God's existence is unattainable. — Abaoaqu
JustSomeGuy         
         So I think people are "paralyzed" by agnosticism. They don't know how to live life as an agnostic. — darthbarracuda
I orient myself in life as though God does not exist. I don't expect miracles, I don't expect to go to the afterlife after I die, I don't pray or worship or any of that. All of this is consistent to what an atheist would (not) do. — darthbarracuda
Yet it could also be said that perhaps morality is dependent on God's existence. An theoretical agnostic might feel compelled to believe in God for the sake of morality. — darthbarracuda
charleton         
         Theist: I believe God exists.
Atheist: I believe God does not exist.
Agnostic: I neither believe God exists nor that God does not exist — darthbarracuda
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charleton         
         "The “a-” in “atheism” must be understood as negation instead of absence, as “not” instead of “without”. Therefore, in philosophy at least, atheism should be construed as the proposition that God does not exist (or, more broadly, the proposition that there are no gods)." — JustSomeGuy
JustSomeGuy         
         Amoral similarly indicates something without a moral content and is not the same as IMMORAL. — charleton
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charleton         
         But this actually makes me wonder something else: when it comes belief, can you really just lack it? No belief one way or the other? — JustSomeGuy
charleton         
         It could even be seen as an evolutionary adaptation of the brain. — JustSomeGuy
JustSomeGuy         
         I think you will agree that many people hold beliefs for many different reasons, some for no real reason at all except that they have been told as a child that such and such is the case? The word belief comes in for a range of meanings rendering it utterly useless since it is also perfectly reasonable to use say "I believe one and one is two". — charleton
I only use 'belief' for matters that I am not sure about; I use "know" for things I feel happy enough to argue a case for. But hold all knowledge to be contingent on the evidence and reasons that support it. — charleton
Throwing belief out of my personal lexicon have been very useful since it had made me think more carefully about things I hold to be true, and to identify things that are speculative. — charleton
I think this is a cop-out for lazy people who find it hard to think and would rather find the easy way out of using their brain but want some excuse. — charleton
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mcdoodle         
         On Sunday (at the post-worship Lutheran Coffee Hour) I suggested to a couple of seminarian types that we should just get rid of the Trinity. Gasp! But that would mean losing the Holy Spirit? — Bitter Crank
mcdoodle         
         When we are discussing the existence of God, there are three main positions — darthbarracuda
charleton         
         No, this is definitively true.Saying "I believe one and one is two" is a reasonable statement because we all have overwhelming evidence that it is true, yet we do not truly know for certain that it is. — JustSomeGuy
Exactly why I almost never use the word belief. It is too vague.And that's fine, but when discussing these concepts in a philosophical context, we need to be explicit about the necessity of belief in the true sense of the word. — JustSomeGuy
is it even possible to lack belief in any issue that you are aware of? Of course if you aren't aware of something you won't hold a belief about it, but if you have knowledge or experience with a certain issue, surely you hold a belief about it. — JustSomeGuy
Do you choose not to believe in god? Of course not, because if you did you could choose to believe in god. It's actually very similar to the homosexuality issue. — JustSomeGuy
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