It's suicide. Just search "gun deaths in America." You'll come up with lots of information along the same lines.
— tim wood
I didn't include suicide for good reason. — Harry Hindu
1. prohibition on concealed weapons;
2. felony and mental health checks, no sale on a positive;
3. registration of gun owners;
4. qualification - a gun test like a driver's license, failed? you don't get a gun;
5. a limit to the number of guns one person can own;
6. prohibition to carry guns in public places;
7. prohibition on dangerous guns to include fully automatic rifles — Benkei
Its purpose is to grant the people the right to keep and bear arms, just as it says. This isn't esoteric stuff. — Thorongil
If we want better policing, then we'll need to treat our police forces with trust and respect and an understanding of why they do what they do. If we think that the private ownership of semi-automatic firearms ought to be illegal, then we're gonna have to keep safe those many thousands, even millions, of law-abiding American citizens who depend on such firearms to protect themselves. — Buxtebuddha
Why not change gun laws? — David Solman
Why are you people so ignorant, — David Solman
Make it safer, more secure so that this doesn't keep happening. It's the obvious thing to do. — David Solman
Are you really saying that the laws on guns are perfect the way it is currently? — David Solman
Indeed, it seems to me that from the language of the amendment, we could fairly judge it silent as to individual gun ownership. — tim wood
(lifted from cracked.com)“I have never believed in the general practice of carrying weapons. I do not believe in the general promiscuous toting of guns. I think it should be sharply restricted and only under licenses.” — Karl Frederick, the President of the Freaking NRA, 1939
As I said, I already addressed the mental illness issue. The fact is that you are engaging in selective outrage. What about the uncountable number of children killed on the streets in the crossfire between rival gangs and drug dealers? You don't seem to care about them at all. The vast majority of gun deaths are the result of drugs and gangs. I have also shown that the relationship between other developed countries and their lack of gun violence isn't their gun laws, rather its their drug laws.You are blaming the problem with guns on drugs and gangs. You are wrong. The problem is mentally ill children are getting their hands on guns too easily. This hasn't happened once or twice, this happens all the time. Instead of pulling it back to drugs and gangs can you please address what you think we should do to prevent school shootings? Or any mass shootings because unless you can give me a reasonable statistic that backs your claim, you're on your own. Facts, need facts... — David Solman
...and neither has anyone else in this thread except yourself. Its a red herring. You're off-topic.Maybe so, but not mentioning the omission... — tim wood
So people don't have a right to choose their own path for their life? So people wouldn't find other ways to commit suicide? Give me a break, dude. You're not worth my time.You also adduce that people have a right to suicide. People can commit suicide. Whether they have a right to is also arguable. The problem is that you state it as a fact. it isn't. — tim wood
Mere assertion without substantive argument is at this point just a waste of all of our time — tim wood
and the purpose of the Second Amendment was to provide for an alternative to a standing army — Michael
No, not necessarily. I agree with Heller that, "The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home." Protection from government tyranny, both foreign and domestic, may have been one reason for the Amendment, but self-protection was another and in fact underlies the former. — Thorongil
No, not necessarily. I agree with Heller that, "The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home." — Thorongil
Protection from government tyranny, both foreign and domestic, may have been one reason for the Amendment, but self-protection was another and in fact underlies the former. — Thorongil
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