I haven't quite made up my mind on that issue, — Thorongil
either untrue to say that all killing of another person is automatically murder — Pseudonym
there are circumstances in which the killing of a completely innocent person is not automatically morally wrong — Pseudonym
1) For the purpose of a clear argument I will (for the time being) separate being biologically human from any concept of personhood. In doing so it is undeniable to say that biological human life begins at conception. — LostThomist
But my indecision in these areas doesn't affect my claim with respect to abortion. — Thorongil
Take the sperm and the egg. The sperm and egg alone cannot grow a fully functional human body. It is not until the sperm and egg meet that a substantial change happens — LostThomist
The very fact that you are undecided about euthanasia — Pseudonym
There is a moral duty not to murder it once alive.
— Thorongil
Murder is an unlawful killing. Given the legality of abortion, abortion isn't murder. — Michael
What's that got to do with it? No one's talking about murder. — Pseudonym
Appeal to authority. That is a logical fallacy. — LostThomist
Then by the same logic, the holocaust was also ok because it was lawfully passed by the recognized German Parliament, Slavery was only because it was legal along with segregation.
Murder: The killing of another human being with intent — LostThomist
I'm afraid that line makes no sense to me at all.Well now you have said both.............no double talk.....yes or no? — LostThomist
My point was that simply saying it is morally acceptable because it is legal is a fallacious appeal to authority. — LostThomist
The same is true tor trying to excuse abortion simply because it is currently legal. — LostThomist
That's not the question you asked. You asked 'can I stab you?', and I answered that question by saying that I would not mind, as long as you succeeded in killing me.If you are in a coma from which you may awake......would it be moral for me to kill you? — LostThomist
The same is true tor trying to excuse abortion simply because it is currently legal. — LostThomist
Then by the same logic, the holocaust was also ok because it was lawfully passed by the recognized German Parliament, Slavery was only because it was legal along with segregation. — LostThomist
↪charleton well I contend your "claim" that abortion is a right — LostThomist
Appeal to authority. That is a logical fallacy. — LostThomist
You are appealing to the authority of the law to determine what is moral — LostThomist
your argument is invalid and fallacious
It’s hard to see, though, how depending upon another person disqualifies you from being a person. — LostThomist
Newborns and toddlers still depend upon their parents to provide nutrition and a safe environment. Indeed, some third-world countries require children to be breast fed because formula is not available. Can a mother kill her newborn son because he depends on her body for nutrition?
Murder is defined as "unlawful killing". Abortion isn't a form of unlawful killing. Therefore, abortion isn't a form of murder. — Michael
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