Why would this not already be obvious? — Thorongil
Thorongil, I apologize.
There is no reason we cannot hold different opinions and be civil. — m-theory
"Would you consider the Gulf and Iraq wars to fall under the definition as you understand it, for example?" — Baden
Absolutely.
— Thorongil — Baden
By the way, in case people care, the Red Cross is out of money to continue to provide aid in Syria (or so it says in Dutch media, so maybe it's just the Dutch entity). — Benkei
I think the best strategy would be this: let's not try to understand one another. It's a waste of time.Why does one preclude the other in your view? I'm safe in my own country so I have the luxury to worry about other people and I think there's an ethical duty to do something (on me, I'm not saying my ethics should apply to you). — Benkei
I think the best strategy would be this: let's not try to understand one another. It's a waste of time. — Mongrel
The Red Cross. That is humanitarian intervention. The ones who make such intervention necessary on the other hand... — Sapientia
If that's how you feel. Personally, I don't think it's a waste of time to understand other points of view. The better I understand others, the more adept I become at taking their interests into account. That might not mean as much on a forum as it does in real life though. — Benkei
I didn't mean this thread to be anything else than to share situations that break your heart. Whatever else that has been read into it, was projection. Sometimes I just like to whine. X-) — Benkei
Reading the posts, what does it say that people are more intent on arguing their worldview and what's wrong with the media, instead of thinking about ways to help? — Benkei
Just venting my frustration.
Feel free to add your own. — Benkei
That doesn't really make sense or you have simply left out what it is you really want from us. — Mayor of Simpleton
Reading the posts, what does it say that people are more intent on arguing their worldview and what's wrong with the media, instead of thinking about ways to help? — Benkei
I wanted you to share. — Benkei
That was another observation after I asked people to share. What do you think it says? — Benkei
...but in the end seems like combatting a symptom that doesn't solve the underlying problem. — Benkei
So the only solution I can see to really contribute is to pay an assassin to kill some key figures in that region. Unfortunately, I don't know with 100% certainty who the key figures are.
So it breaks my heart again because there's nothing I can do to prevent this and I know it will happen again and again. — Benkei
Out of curiosity - and you don't have to answer if this is too personal - do you imagine you'd have heart break if your wife left you or one of your cats died? Or not in those cases either? — Benkei
I view "heart break" as letting emotions take over and that usual leads to many mistakes in spite of "good intentions". I suppose that's why a appeal to emotions is considered a fallacy. — Mayor of Simpleton
Why do emotions lead to mistakes? — Benkei
Did you marry your wife purely on rational grounds? — Benkei
Love your cats rationally? — Benkei
If anything, I actually feel I don't have enough emotions. How's that for opposites? ;) — Benkei
In which matters or which context do you not have enough emotions and according to who's standard of measure?
Funny thing in that sentence you wrote is that you "feel" you don't have enough "emotions". — Mayor of Simpleton
Let's just say I have a very rich emotional life behind my piano and it stops when I stop playing. — Benkei
Well... now you have a kid, so you can have a rich emotional life making him/her (I forget, sorry) take piano lessons, but (if you do that) be aware that (s)he'll have an emotional reaction to this too... and not always a rational one. — Mayor of Simpleton
Which one? — Thorongil
A solid bait, but I'm not taking it. Your language is even more calculated to show that continuing the conversation would be unproductive. — Thorongil
But I won't be silenced. — Sapientia
Then please refer me (or as is more likely, concoct) this serious point I seem to have missed buried under the mountain of sarcasm you have provided. — Thorongil
So is it that you like hearing yourself talk or that you have a genuine interest in what I have to say? I suspect the former. — Thorongil
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