Remain true to yourself, but move ever upward toward greater consciousness and greater love! At the summit you will find yourselves united with all those who, from every direction, have made the same ascent. For everything that rises must converge. — Wikipedia
I love porn, but let's have a nice clean story about racism instead of sex. — Bitter Crank
I love porn, but let's have a nice clean story about racism instead of sex. — Bitter Crank
I really don't think that the story is about racism as such. It is about peoples ability or lack of ability to adapt to change — Sir2u
His behaviour towards black people is not so much contemptible because he can't see their faults; rather it is contemptible because he ends up using them to score points against his mother. — Πετροκότσυφας
Also, I don't think that up to the point of the penny incident the author tried to show the son as less contemptible. — Πετροκότσυφας
Hint: it wasn't changes in agriculture or industry. — Bitter Crank
Missed that, so good.The greatest irony of course was that: "He could not push her to the extent of making her have a stroke". Funny!
This quote: "I think he likes me,” Julian's mother said, and smiled at the woman. It was the smile she used when she was being particularly gracious to an inferior", and the fact that the author does not say anything to counter the son's accusations, who saw the gesture as objectionable, make me doubt that she wasn't conscious.
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The greatest irony of course was that: "He could not push her to the extent of making her have a stroke". Funny!
Missed that, so good. — csalisbury
The tide of darkness seemed to sweep him back to her, postponing from moment to moment his entry into the world of guilt and sorrow. — ETRMC
So, my dad was raised in an ultra-WASPy family, disdain for blue-collar people through and through. — csalisbury
Also interesting that of the four stories recently talked about here, two (the other is the Oates) involve domineering mothers and a “be careful what you wish for” tragedy — csalisbury
Here’s a thing: does this story correspond to a particular stance on 60s civil rights? — csalisbury
If the son thought about class much, he would realize his status is uncomfortably ambiguous: maybe he has an education (which is a leg up in class) but he doesn't have the connections or the ambition to go with it. — BC
Why does the son have such poor prospects? — BC
He's not going to be have the shelter of a fantasy world, and he won't have many means to make life better, either. — BC
Her world was fairly small, I think. She had lupus (from which she died) and stuck pretty close to home. She was a Catholic southerner, something of an outsider. Most of her characters have glaring faults, whether it's spiritual faults, false pride, predation on the simpleminded, or what have you. — BC
I've been very taken by the idea of Grace the past year, and also really liked this story, as troubling as I found it. I'm really curious about her take on grace (especially because I think you can only get grace if you can get its absence, and she definitely does.) Where does she get into the nice stuff?But O'Connor also understood Grace. — BC
This usually comes with a kind of sadism, and she does seem sadistic. — csalisbury
. Not because she was racist, but because she saw all people as equally awful. — csalisbury
This is going to sound petty, but you're leaving one thing out, and petty as it is, I think it's relevant. O' Connor was unattractive. She wasn't a good-looking person. — csalisbury
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