You go back to doing what you did before. That's the answer. — Baden
We can go back to treating it as a civil issue and not separate families. — Jeremiah
This is what you're supporting, Tiff. — Baden
So because person X does not show up for court then your purposed solution is to take person's Y children away?
So that means if I run someone over then skip on bail we get to throw you in prison? Am I getting this right? I mean you are suggesting we punish unrelated individuals for someone's else crime, right? — Jeremiah
Do you realize the amount you're complaining about is absolutely dwarfed by the amount Trump just gave away to corporations and the rich in tax breaks? And that said corporations are not re-investing but buying their own shares with it. That you have a military budget of 700 billion. Anyone who is willing to sell their soul for the peanuts this policy would save them in taxes while idly standing by and watching Trump throw billions of your tax dollars away on those who have the least need of it has their priorities seriously messed up. — Baden
Do you realize the amount you're complaining about is absolutely dwarfed by the amount Trump just gave away to corporations and the rich in tax breaks? And that said corporations are not re-investing but buying their own shares with it. That you have a military budget of 700 billion and growing. Anyone who is willing to sell their soul for the peanuts this policy would save them in taxes while idly standing by and watching Trump throw billions of their tax dollars away on those who have the least need of it has their priorities seriously messed up. — Baden
Anyone who is willing to sell their soul for the peanuts this policy would save them in taxes while idly standing by and watching Trump throw billions of their tax dollars away on those who have the least need of it has their priorities seriously messed up. — Baden
It would be more honest to tell them directly what you think about them stealing your tax dollars in my view. — Baden
This is not a simple difference of political ideologies; no matter where you stand on the issue any morally aware individual finds these tactics shocking, evil and way over the top. Yet here you are, acting like it is the same old conversation as always. — Jeremiah
So how would these, you have listed above, impinge upon, say, a so-defined left leaning speaker?
Is it not the same for any invited speaker from anywhere? Is that not an example equality? Same rules for everyone? — raza
Although, to correct you, not "immigrant" families. Immigrants do not cross borders illegally. — raza
Apparently this was an Obama policy that has yet to be altered which democrats have been invited to meet with the current administration in order to improve it.
Apparently celebrity democrat supporters also tweeted photos of cage-like areas holding undocumented border jumpers, but deleted their tweets once it was pointed out that the photos were taken in 2014. — raza
That policy was in affect during the Obama administration as well. — ArguingWAristotleTiff
When we have people seeking political asylum, in the numbers that we are, what do you expect? For us to leave them out in the sweltering heat? Have you seen what the temps are here in the desert? Have you seen the Wal*Mart Super centers that these kids are residing in? Do you really equate the two? — ArguingWAristotleTiff
You do know that these people presenting themselves for political asylum KNOW that they might be separated and are coached repeatedly throughout their journey? — ArguingWAristotleTiff
I have a hard time seeing that as being on the same level as "the worst US atrocity since the War in Iraq". But please, do expand your correlation. — ArguingWAristotleTiff
So the taxes we pay are going not to improve our schools, to help our homeless or those who are hungry. No, they are being absorbed by the 'tax' that non legal citizens are putting on our social structure. — ArguingWAristotleTiff
This is simply incorrect. This policy was implemented by the Trump administration, and it can be reversed by the Trump administration. Trump, surprise surprise, is lying. — Maw
No fucking clue what point you are trying to drive here Tiff. I don't desire families to be left out in the "sweltering heat", nor do I desire families split up with parents being deported back to their home countries, while their young children are left in Walmart. Wise-up if you think these are the only two viable options for immigration. — Maw
Given that this is a new policy, no. This is simply false. — Maw
Actually, you are right here. I meant to correct myself earlier. This is the worst atrocity since the Trump administration's callous approach to the Puerto Rico hurricane. And that was the worst atrocity since Hurricane Katrina. No real "correlation" to draw from here, except the indifference Republican administrations seem to have for American minorities. — Maw
The economics is a little more complicated than that. — Srap Tasmaner
For instance, if you are here illegally and your husband beats you and your children, who are you going to call? To call the authorities would be damning themselves in the process. What happens if you as an illegal immigrant are mugged and raped? Who do you turn to? — ArguingWAristotleTiff
I'm confused. Are you describing here a taxpayer-funded service that illegal immigrants choose not to avail themselves of? — Srap Tasmaner
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