However with regard to a discussion about immigration and illegal immigration it is not necessary that it be a pro-Trump vs an anti-Trump debate. Take whoever the president happens to be away the debate will always still remain. — raza
ICE, responsible for the civil law approach, as a rule did not separate families with very young children due to the children's dependency on their parents. Now, children younger than five years old were separated from their parents some of them even unable to talk, that suggests ages below 3 and if my daughter is anything to go by: below 2 years old. I find it incredibly difficult to wrap my head around how people consider this morally acceptable; treating babies and toddlers as a means to deter illegal immigration.
Even if it were morally acceptable, there's no evidence criminal prosecution is effective. In fact, it was standard practise to follow the civil law route as it was more effective than criminal prosecution (which has a much higher burden of proof). The whole criminal court system was swamped as a result of the new policy, further underlining the change in policy was ill considered. — Benkei
This was a very ambiguous comment my dear Posty; not directed in any particular direction lol. — Mr Phil O'Sophy
Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.
Detained Central American migrants who have been separated from their children have been told they can reunite with them if they agree to voluntarily deportations, The Texas Tribune reported Sunday.
The news outlet, citing a detained Honduran man and two immigration lawyers, reported that the migrants have been told they would be reunited with their children at an airport if they agree to sign off on deportations.
The Honduran man, who was not identified, said he gave up his asylum case and signed the paperwork in an effort to reunite with his 6-year-old daughter. He said he’s now trying to rescind his agreement and fight his case in court.
I'm doing philosophy — Mr Phil O'Sophy
Secondly, please quote me where I suggest you are clueless with regards to the trump immigration situation? — Mr Phil O'Sophy
Where did I say anything about hardcore racists? You raise a problem here, as that comment there, which follows this one: — Mr Phil O'Sophy
implies you think anyone who disagree's with us on this whole immigration ordeal and stands on the opposite side of the argument to us is somehow standing with evil and by proxy a hardcore racist. — Mr Phil O'Sophy
One of the fundamental reasons that racism is abhorrent is due to its generalising characteristic. By making the claims that you have, you have become just as guilty of generalising, and run the risk of becoming equivalent to the thing you decry so much; while also openly suggesting that none of them are "capable of reasoning", and that you're only intention here is to simply shame those who disagree with us, you show yourself as a completely unreasonable person. — Mr Phil O'Sophy
Rest assured, I am quite calm as I write this ;) I just truly believe you have completely blinded yourself to your own inadequacies, and that you fail to take valid criticism from people whether they agree or disagree with you; I mean that with all due respect. — Mr Phil O'Sophy
Dammed if you do or don’t. — FreeEmotion
I would never condemn any President of the United States as "a clueless idiot", which is why such characterizations are surprising to say the least — FreeEmotion
Pretty hilarious of Mike Pence to ask South American countries to respect our borders because America "respects their borders and sovereignty" given the history we've had of installing or backing dictatorships in various South American countries, including the Northern Triangle, where many immigrants are escaping gang violence. — Maw
I would never condemn any President of the United States as "a clueless idiot" — FreeEmotion
However with regard to a discussion about immigration and illegal immigration it is not necessary that it be a pro-Trump vs an anti-Trump debate. Take whoever the president happens to be away the debate will always still remain. — raza
should all America Citizens being giving a get out of jail free card, — wellwisher
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