Horkheimer, Adorno: Dialectic of EnlightenmentThe essence of enlightenment is the choice between alternatives, and the inescapability of this choice is that of power.
Yet the everyday conception is satisfied with something being a "computer failure".A computer program is not responsible for the outcome of following a decision tree. — Relativist
Wouldn't this computer program look like it is making free will choices? — jajsfaye
Now, why would knowing about something in my past, rather than if they were not known, make them more free? That part of your definition seems bizarre. — InternetStranger
This is when it's free will, as it is free and rooted in pure reason, is at the same time it's duty. — Heiko
If indeed we had a choice we would not continue to ask the same question, and in this case philosophy and reason would rule the world. — Marcus de Brun
So, at a very basic level, the idea of free will is flawed for the reason I outlined above. — TheMadFool
Formally the number of potential choices increases when thinking about which things one should not do in any case. Nor is an "objective" decision tree an adequate model for the experience of everyday decision-making neither can be a process guided by reason be deemed to come to arbitrary decisions.This is another problem with the idea of free will. Rationality is a guideline for thinking and as such constrains our choices. To act in a rational way is to limit one’s choices. In short to be rational is not to be free. — TheMadFool
Is this that important? Won't the quality of the biases produced that way depend largely on how you approach things on a daily basis? Sometimes on weekends I wake up just at the time when the alarm-clock would ring on weekdays. May be an analogy.There are psychological studies proving that our brain makes a decision 5-10 seconds before we consciously realize, hence, who is making the choice? — GreyScorpio
Is this that important? Won't the quality of the biases produced that way depend largely on how you approach things on a daily basis? Sometimes on weekends I wake up just at the time when the alarm-clock would ring on weekdays. May be an analogy. — Heiko
Will has to be free because otherwise it would not be "will" but an effect. It's nature is purely ideal. No one can decide if you do something out of free will, but you. It easy to make up situations and say that you somehow must have wanted to do something. - He who wants the purpose must also want the means. - This is a contradiction.Free will is the idea that we have the power to make our own decisions of which cannot be influenced by anything but our own infliction. — GreyScorpio
So when I play a game of chess and think, say, 10 minutes about my next move, don't you think the thought-process that I am aware of is a significant contribution to the deciding factors which move I actually take? — Heiko
Will has to be free because otherwise it would not be "will" but an effect. It's nature is purely ideal. — Heiko
Will aims at purposes, not means. It is different from the action itself as well as the choosing of means.The very definition of 'Will' is the faculty by which a person makes a decision. However, a decision can be free OR forced. Not every will is free. Decisions are limited as it is, we don't yet understand the concept of free I believe. — GreyScorpio
You mean by my-self, right? I wonder why this should be a problem?you may think that you haven't yet made the decision, but it already has been made for you. — GreyScorpio
Are we? Of what? Of yourself? Of others? Of fear, dread and sorrow?you have to ask yourself. Are we really free? — GreyScorpio
Are we? Of what? Of yourself? Of others? Of fear, dread and sorrow? — Heiko
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