Each apple is so much different from the other that it is hard to imagine how we can talk about (number) two apples. And that is a miracle we do almost every moment of our life – without noticing what we are doing. — Damir Ibrisimovic
It seems that we need to reinvent our theories to enable unique phenomena occurring in our picture of the universe. — Damir Ibrisimovic
Each apple is so much different from the other that it is hard to imagine how we can talk about (number) two apples. — Damir Ibrisimovic
“Physics is mathematical not because we know so much about the physical world, but because we know so little; it is only its mathematical properties that we can discover. — Betrand Russell
Person A: Nonsense! I must post this to the internet at once! — John Doe
Good, well then perhaps you should set to work reinventing the whole theoretical apparatus which enables internet, wifi, computing, satellites and microchips first. — John Doe
It's not really. If you had an orchard growing pears, apples, and oranges, and you had to group the output by kind of fruit, that wouldn't be difficult. — Wayfarer
And that is a miracle we do almost every moment of our life – without noticing what we are doing. — Damir Ibrisimovic
And indeed the universe 'is ticking' with repeatable causes and effects (even if it's a rather odd turn of phrase.) — Wayfarer
Mmm, singularity is the madness of reason, its vertigo and its dirty little secret. — StreetlightX
You're probably the type that thinks the each human is completely unique and dissimilar. — Bitter Crank
As yet our cognitive processes cannot handle the uniqueness of naturally occurring phenomena (1/∞). — Damir Ibrisimovic
But it is our great similarity that enables us to understand each other. — Bitter Crank
Yes, only God, being an infinite intelligence, can handle that. — Janus
Enjoy the day, — Damir Ibrisimovic
OK, but this has nothing to do with what we were discussing, which was the difference between finite, and an infinite, mind. — Janus
Is that an order? — Janus
I wasn't under impression that we were discussing an "infinite mind". Unique (impossible) phenomena can be managed indirectly as infinite sets are managed in math. — Damir Ibrisimovic
You can take it as an "order". — Damir Ibrisimovic
Possibly, but my point was just that a finite mind, which relies on abstraction, cannot see things as absolute singularities. — Janus
However, the finite set of similarities cannot disguise the fact that there is an infinity of differences. — Damir Ibrisimovic
does spot the difference achieve the same results? — JupiterJess
Now we can then imagine the more objective view of the world. — apokrisis
The world is no longer infinitely divisible. It has a finite definite information content. Only so much difference can be actual. — apokrisis
But oh well. It takes more that actual facts about nature to shake people out of a formal classical conception of reality. — apokrisis
... is not something that could ever be demonstrated, — Janus
Even physicists accept that wavicles (WAVe/partICLEs) are unique with infinite sets of differences. — Damir Ibrisimovic
Quantum theory in fact relies on the indistinguishability, or identicality, of particles to explain their "weird" statistics - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identical_particles — apokrisis
I wouldn't always trust Wikipedia... — Damir Ibrisimovic
Get involved in philosophical discussions about knowledge, truth, language, consciousness, science, politics, religion, logic and mathematics, art, history, and lots more. No ads, no clutter, and very little agreement — just fascinating conversations.