is lying and about to commit perjury which is a felony and punishable with jail time — Baden
Yes, in this case. But charges were not pressed and the statute of limitation on this event has expired — Bitter Crank
Plus, the idea that some privileged elite who has an accusation leveled at him is being treated worse than a 15-year-old who thought she was being raped is severely wrongheaded. — Baden
Does the accused suddenly have the right not to be prosecuted much later? Nazi war criminals were prosecuted long after the war. The only people that objected to that were Nazis. — Baden
See above. There is no right to get away with crimes just because you weren't caught quickly enough except in cases where statutes of limitations apply. — Baden
It's odd that it takes a potential prosecution of an elite conservative to bring out your concerns about a justice system that is highly weighed against the poor and unprivileged. — Baden
Let me ask you this: If any of you had a 15-year-old daughter or a close relative who told you that an older boy had held her down, hand over mouth to the point where she feared she would suffocate, groped her and grinded his body against her, and then tried to pull her clothes off, and that she thought he was trying to rape her, would you just tell her to laugh it off and then do nothing about it? Would you be more worried about the reputation of the accused? And how would you feel about those more interested in protecting him than her? — Baden
They both have plenty of motivation to lie. — Hanover
Why because I'm part of the elite? I was pretty much a middle class kid who went to public school (and public means government funded in the US, which I understand is oddly the opposite in the UK), we took exotic trips in our station wagon to the Georgia coast every year, and I don't remember any country clubs. But, whatever. I thought the Clarence Thomas lynching was just as bad, and yet he was hardly from an elite background. — Hanover
. I guess I could tell you that your only motivation in holding your position is because of your disdain of those elite country club kids who you looked upon with envy from your hovel as a child. — Hanover
She says it happened and he says it didn't. They both have plenty of motivation to lie. — Hanover
It's been reported that the State of Maryland doesn't have a statute of limitations for the crimes of rape and assault. — Pierre-Normand
But to your point, suffering a sexual assault is worse than suffering an accusation of sexual assault. I would be considerably angrier at someone who sexually assaulted my daughter than someone who falsely accused my son of sexual assault. — Baden
GET BACK INTO YOUR HOVELS, IRISH SWINE! — Bitter Crank
There seem to be quite a few gradations of assault. Stepping (not stomping) on my foot and beating me senseless are both assault and battery but hardly the same thing. Fondling a breast without permission is an assault, but it isn't equivalent to rape. Acting as if one were trying to execute intercourse (except that both parties are clothed) isn't the same as the flesh/flesh contact and penetration of rape. — Bitter Crank
Franken was denounced for something a good deal less than assault. "Misconduct?" I don't think it was misconduct -- but it certainly wasn't a crime either. — Bitter Crank
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. If he did, of course it says something about him. Not every adolescent is capable of jumping a girl, putting their hands over her mouth, and trying to rip their clothes off, drunk or not. It goes far beyond "stupid". At the same time, as I've already said, what absolutely disqualifies him, if it's true, is lying about it and being willing to lie under oath about it, which is a crime in itself. — Baden
Kavanaugh, on the other hand, spent most of his life getting off scot-free — Baden
In the original constitutional framework the federal level of government was not designed to be in charge of major policy making. — Existoic
Article [X] Reserved Powers
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
At this point the case is one person's version versus another persons version, delayed by 35 years time. There is no way to prove very much about this case. You believe women. Baden scores 10 points from #metoo. — Bitter Crank
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