We've just established there's no statute of limitations in this case, and suggesting in any case that I was suggesting an equivalence in severity of crime between Nazi genocide and this sexual assault rather than merely pointing out the failure of your attempt at establishing a non-existent right not to be prosecuted when such a statute doesn't apply is something I should really spend considerable time mocking and berating you for, and only won't because I'm too lazy to move from my mobile to my laptop where typing is more convenient. — Baden
What's her motivation to lie? So she can have her life threatened and suffer harassment and mockery from the right-wing hate machine? As opposed to him avoiding having his career wet dream spill wastefully into his pyjamas. Hm, let me weigh those two up. — Baden
Please don't tell me your biography. It makes it look as if you think I care about you. Which is icky. — Baden
And even given that, note that the Dems did not attack the victims and let Franken go. We may disagree over whether he should have been let go, but the difference in attitude is striking. — Baden
Baden scores 10 points from #metoo. — Bitter Crank
Crime victims need to keep in my mind that, however difficult it may be, they have a civic responsibility to report crimes to the police because failing to do so puts other people at risk. If they fail to fulfill that responsibility, their credibility is naturally going to take a hit, and maybe it should. — Jake
So sanctimonious. We all have the same empathy as you for those who were actually sexually abused. The question here is whether she was, not whether we'd feel for her if she was. And there's also the question of empathy for those wrongly accused and the needless suffering they endure. The idea of protecting the accused is actually a progressive idea. It's not an oversight in the system that we'd rather let 10 rapists go free than to send a single innocent man to prison.She was fifteen, and most likely very scared and traumatised. But let's blame her rather than criticise the abuser. Again, all your post demonstrates is a lack of empathy for the victims of these crimes. It does zero in terms of analysis. — Baden
the Democrats removed him honorably, whereas the Republicans refuse to show any class. — Hanover
I don't want to nitpick either as I think it was right to dump Frankenstein (predictive text error but I think I'll just leave it), and I have nothing positive to say about his behaviour, I condemn it fully. — Baden
People aren't disposable. They would discredit themselves if they pulled his nomination based on these unsupported allegations. If you were accused of something you didn't do, you wouldn't find it honorable for someone to stand beside you and defend you, especially if it meant harm to that person's reputation?Yes, why (presuming Ford testifies convincingly) not just move on to the next candidate and push through in the lame duck. We all know that's what they're going to do anyway if Kavanaugh goes down. Why discredit themselves? — Baden
We all have the same empathy as you for those who were actually sexually abused — Hanover
He was drunk and jumped a girl - that's according to the girl. It's not very nice, and these days it's a serious crime, though not so much then. But it's nothing to wreck a life over, and that seems to have been the judgment of the girl and the woman she grew to be. — tim wood
You're kind of going on and on about it. My theory predicts dastardliness of some kind in your history. — frank
As Senate Republicans press for a swift vote to confirm Brett Kavanaugh, President Trump’s nominee to the Supreme Court, Senate Democrats are investigating a new allegation of sexual misconduct against Kavanaugh. The claim dates to the 1983-84 academic school year, when Kavanaugh was a freshman at Yale University.
Senior Republican staffers also learned of the allegation last week and, in conversations with The New Yorker, expressed concern about its potential impact on Kavanaugh’s nomination. Soon after, Senate Republicans issued renewed calls to accelerate the timing of a committee vote.
This is probably the most naive thing you've ever written. Forget about me though, I'm only empathy normal. There are plenty out there with more empathy for the sexually abused than me who would rip some of the posters here new arseholes for the crass and insensitive way they talk about these victims. No, the idea that we all care equally is frankly nuts. — Baden
My approach here is universal. Whether you're accused of child abuse, sexual abuse, drunk driving, or jay walking, you're innocent until proven guilty. I know that's a wild notion. If you want to take all the sexual abusers and throw them under the jail, I'll be there with you first thing in the morning with my shovel, but I sorta need to know the folks we're throwing under there actually did what we think we did. — Hanover
t was! Mom's boyfriend was a Catholic priest back then. Now he's a bishop. — Bitter Crank
But let's be real, if he was a lefty, you wouldn't be making these points, so it's not about the merits of how he's being treated but the fact that he's a conservative that's key for you. Am I wrong? — Baden
Christ, cry me a river — Baden
That's a crock of laughable horseshit — Baden
Fine, double down on your sanctimony and let me know how deeply you feel and inform me that I couldn't care any less about people being abused. I just find your approach horribly unjust, with less regard for the truth than to simply make a feel good declaration about how supportive you are of those who've been abused. — Hanover
That's a crock of laughable horseshit. Franken wasn't convicted and you supported him being dumped for a start. But of course he wasn't a conservative. Plus, suppose someone wanting to be a principle at the local school was credibly accused of sexual assault and it wasn't yet proven. Just ignore it? Vote the guy in? This is kids stuff, H. This is not about your principles, it's about your team. — Baden
You are wrong actually. This is a truly a big issue for me. I see all this as a system for allowing people to be thrown away and discarded. It's inhumane in a very real way. — Hanover
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