including all the amendments. — hks
Somebody explain to me how I can add @baden to my iggy list and ignore all his comments. He is a dedicated Sophist who uses Sophistry and lies with every exhalation of his mouth. — hks
Born and bred in the USA should leave the USA if they cannot support the U.S. Constitution including all the amendments. — hks
There is a gun behind every blade of grass. I am glad.
Anyone who is not glad about that should move to Australia, Canada, England, New Zealand, Scotland, Singapore, Wales or someplace else outside the English Speaking World. — hks
The 2nd Amendment was instituted to facilitate the Body Politic in defending the Constitution and the Nation from tyrants. However it has mostly seen its main application in self defense against crime on the streets such as robbery and murder. — hks
Nope, the thinking has transformed this whimsical loonie idea that any moron, that has enough money to buy an semi-automatic version of an assault rifle, somehow belongs then to this mythical "well regulated militia" and the free State isn't the US government, as that is the bogeyman for these idiots who fear their own government taking their guns away. As if having an arsenal of guns is somehow a deterrence to the sole superpower that has the biggest security apparatus in the West. As if the actual way of preventing your own government of falling into tyranny wouldn't be to an informed active citizen that takes part in the democratic political process. — ssu
Where do you stand on this debate? — Brian
And, would you go to a McDonald's or a Chuckie Cheese or a football game or anywhere else if everyone there had a gun? — tim wood
In a Utopian world man would have no sense of fear of harm to himself and his family. However to remove an emotional response, to a fundamental need of self preservation would be dehumanizing, no?My only goal would be to virtually eliminate gun violence. — Terrapin Station
Yeah, ton of literature especially pushed out by the gun lobby. Yet the argument is simply nuts if you would stop and think about it. — ssu
What does that have to do with my comments? I wasn't saying anything about emotions. — Terrapin Station
I'm in favor of whatever would work to significantly diminish gun violence. And I'm willing to try very radical things to attempt to diminish gun violence--anything from a complete ban on ALL firearms to manditorily arming and training everyone, and everything we can think of between those two extremes. I don't care one way or another about the second amendment. My only goal would be to virtually eliminate gun violence. — Terrapin Station
You are asking people to think of everything we can between two extremes and I am suggesting that within all the good that can come from different ways of helping curb illegal gun violence, comes human emotion. If the human emotion and connection isn't recognized than all the "thinking" about everything in between those two extremes becomes irrelevant to the gun owners who accept the responsibility to own and carry a firearm. — ArguingWAristotleTiff
Is your real question whether or not I fear my fellow citizens being armed? — ArguingWAristotleTiff
Then the question, which is obvious even from the Wikipedia article, was the fear against a standing professional army, which btw you have now as the last remnants of that idea of an armed militia, the selective draft, has been ended and only about 1% of the people serve in the military. But what you do have are many incorrect memes putting words into the mouth of George Washington as if he was warning to be armed against the republic he was founding.Its not an argument. It's a fact. I wouldn't ask you to read a history of the U.S., but there's a wikipedia article on the 2nd amendment that would help you understand the original intention. Ok? — frank
Then the question, which is obvious even from the Wikipedia article, was the fear against a standing professional army, which btw you have now as the last remnants of that idea of an armed militia, the selective draft, has been ended and only about 1% of the people serve in the military. But what you do have are many incorrect memes putting words into the mouth of George Washington as if he was warning to be armed against the republic he was founding. — ssu
Well, above you did say that the original intention of the 2nd amendment was for the citizens to stop the government, here meaning their own government, from getting tyrannical. And this of course is a very popular view in the US. — ssu
Originally envisioned, as you say. I would encourage you to focus more on actuality too.The USA was originally envisioned as a loose association of states with common interests. — frank
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