I would encourage you to focus more on actuality too. — ssu
Yet the idea that the Republic is your potential enemy and that you would get protection from having guns against the government, especially on like the US, is in my view not "healthy sceptism", but paranoia. — ssu
I'm not advocating thinking, but doing. — Terrapin Station
We have to actually make some major changes by doing something. One thing we can try is simply banning firearms. — Terrapin Station
Fair enoughMy real question is the one I asked. — tim wood
Absolutely I would feel comfortable.If you entered a place of public accommodation and saw everyone "heeled," would you feel comfortable, would you stay? — tim wood
I myself would wonder what was wrong with my community that ordinary folks in ordinary situations felt the need to carry arms. — tim wood
A firearm is not a "necessary adjunct of ordinary attire" it is a choice and each person has their own individual reasons and frankly it is none of anyone else's business why they make the choice they do.I'd be inclined to think much folks were in themselves dangerous. When did a gun become a necessary adjunct of ordinary attire? — tim wood
:confused:What are they thinking, exactly? To my way of thinking an unnecessary gun is the sign of either very immature person or one with a significant personality disorder - neither of which should have a gun. — tim wood
What I am suggesting, is that you entertain that idea understanding that not everybody holds the same position as you.
I am sure you are aware that many people believe in the right to carry a firearm and their belief is just as real and just as solid as yours' is.
What I am trying to convey, that seems to keep being missed, is the emotional basis in which both perspectives can be based in.
A suggestion of "One thing we can try is simply banning firearms" is to dismiss those that are not of the same belief as you, as though those who support the right to own a firearm are being summarily dismissed.
Does it seem fair to summarily dismiss their position, which is viewed as "proactive" and tell them that the solution to our nations issues with firearms is for them to surrender their firearms and remain in a "reactive" position? — ArguingWAristotleTiff
Absolutely I would feel comfortable. — ArguingWAristotleTiff
I would emphasis the part "very symbolic" as it has far more to do with symbolism than anything else.I understand that many Americans consider owning guns, or at least having the right to, a very symbolic element of their democracy. — DiegoT
The fear that Americans have of their own government is perhaps something very unique considering the US is a Western democracy. So either people fear Obama taking away their guns and turning the US socialist or Trump turning the US away from a democratic republic to corrupt fascism. In both cases there isn't much trust on the institutions of the Republic.In addition to this, there arer very legitimate concerns of citizens as they become increasingly over-powered by the digital and military might of the police and army. — DiegoT
I am sure you are aware that many people believe in the right to carry a firearm and their belief is just as real and just as solid as yours' is. — ArguingWAristotleTiff
It ain't gonna get amended Maw, can we get over that already and seek alternatives to the issue? — Wallows
Guns are for the cowardly and faithless. Gun bans are for the cowardly and faithless. — Merkwurdichliebe
Fuck yeah dude, legislation that will ultimately decrease homicides, suicides, and obviously school shootings etc. is super cowardly. Instead, let's train students to fight school shooters, even if it costs them their lives. That's the definition of brave! — Maw
It's shown that while gun control will reduce mass shootings it won't reduce the number of murders — khaled
Does it seem fair to summarily dismiss their position, which is viewed as "proactive" and tell them that the solution to our nations issues with firearms is for them to surrender their firearms and remain in a "reactive" position? — ArguingWAristotleTiff
The rifle used in the Garlic Festival shooting was legally purchased in Nevada — S
Twenty people were killed in a shooting at an El Paso shopping center on Saturday, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said at a news conference.
More than two dozen were injured, he said.
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