Well, if as you say ignorance is exculpatory, then for the ignorant, there is no crime, yes? — tim wood
The brain chemistry though true, alcohol is the same way and worse it is a poison literally... somebody is fucking wrong here. Either alcohol be illegal or marijuana be legal... It contradicts itself any other way... and I am on the premise of unlimited rights not less. — Drek
As much as I don't like taxes, THIS! It's representative too, so it has a good moral basis. Unlike how Britain used to tax us and use the money willy nilly."Making money needs to come with responsibility and taxing a product or service to resolve a problem caused by using a product or service is responsible."
Well, if as you say ignorance is exculpatory, then for the ignorant, there is no crime, yes?
— tim wood
What a wonderful philosophical question. I can think of few things worse than bringing a child into this world without being prepared to care for the child and we have not made that a crime. Maybe we should? — Athena
For sure we live in a society obsessed by being technically correct and I believe this is a serious threat to our liberty. In the past, we cared more about the spirit of the law, and said tyranny is going by the letter of the law. I won't argue that we are not highly concerned about technical correctness today. However, in the past there was room for a judge to say, we will overlook your violation this time, but if it happens again, you will be punished for the infraction and this one too. We relied on the wisdom of judges and didn't make the state the authority over punishments. A wise person isn't wise if s/he does not take ignorance of law into consideration.
This is not the only time in history that a society became overly concerned with technological correctness. I question if this concern for technological is a good thing? — Athena
This is definitely something I agree with you on. There should be far more common sense in the criminal justice system. The objective should be to make everyone's lives better, and that's not done by taking a draconian, "technically correct" approach to criminal justice. — Terrapin Station
it also opens the door to bias and emotion based judgements — DingoJones
This is definitely something I agree with you on. There should be far more common sense in the criminal justice system. The objective should be to make everyone's lives better, and that's not done by taking a draconian, "technically correct" approach to criminal justice. — Terrapin Station
No, it isn't. There's a whole art to persuasive rhetoric. You're going to tailor it to the person (or the people) you're trying to persuade, a la the traditional sense of ad hominem. And yeah, it's "disingenuous" on your view, but that hardly matters. The goal is to persuade others. — Terrapin Station
Underlined is the very definition of sophistry. Perhaps you should try the Sophistry Forums instead! — Janus
If you are not choosing it over responsibilities, and it's not a financial burden, is it really bad?
My main drug in question is marijuana.
Would it be more immoral to lie to people that "it makes them crazy, rapists, and killers?" — Drek
The harder stuff is more risky. — S
The harder stuff is more risky.
— S
True, but what are risks to those that indulge in its recreational usage? There are plenty of functional users. — Anaxagoras
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