What's not appealing in the sense that you're using that term is the suggestion that beliefs must have some merit just because they're strong beliefs or common beliefs. That approach would suggest that we should still be performing rituals, making sacrifices, etc. to ensure a good harvest, to stave off natural disasters, etc. — Terrapin Station
and all thought/belief consists of that which is not existentially dependent upon the thinking/believing subject, as well as that which is, thought/belief is neither. — creativesoul
Thought and belief are neither objective nor subjective — creativesoul
. . .and given that there is no "supernatural realm" (unfortunately, because I like the idea of things like ghosts), then there is no objective property of "goodness." — Terrapin Station
Clarify then... what comes through a subject that is not subjective? — creativesoul
Well, I've been restricting myself to the nature of moral language -- namely that moral statements are not special with respect to other statements. — Moliere
Some people believe in a non natural realm so won't have ruled this out. — Andrew4Handel
that that meaning is derived from their form as a proposition, — Moliere
Teleology is nonsense by the way. — Terrapin Station
Some people believe in a non natural realm so won't have ruled this out.
— Andrew4Handel
Yeah, but those people are wrong. — Terrapin Station
Teleology is very useful if you want to learn how to drive a car. — Andrew4Handel
What is your argument against a non natural realm? — Andrew4Handel
Complete absence of evidence for anything supernatural. Also, some of the things posited are incoherent. — Terrapin Station
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