They're foundational for philosophical arguments. I've seen way too many examples on this forum where arguments go nowhere since people just bash opinions and doesn't listen to the other side. — Christoffer
Having a sound logical structure is the bare minimum requirement for an argument — SophistiCat
LOL. Post-truth BS in a logical format.Yes, there's alot here beneath engagement. It's the gems one must look out for. It's simple self-respect to know when to ignore someone and their argument when it leads to no interesting discussion. The problem here is not fallacies. It's misplaced pride and an inability to ruthlessly discriminate. No pinned post can fix that.
Those who think philosophy turns on fallacies have yet to leave the play-pen. — StreetlightX
I don't see the difference between something being valid and something being truthful. — Harry Hindu
True premises and a valid argument guarantee a true conclusion. An argument which is valid and has true premises is said to be sound (adjective) or have the property of soundness (noun).
So in order to be true, your argument need to be valid. — Harry Hindu
So in order to be true, your argument need to be valid. — Harry Hindu
And among the bad posts and obnoxious posters, I suspect that fallacies and biases are far from being the biggest problems. In fact, the identification of fallacies can be part of a bad argumentative style, and a preoccupation with fallacies seems sometimes to indicate an interest in critical thinking at the expense of philosophy.
And there's just something so middlebrow about it, like a preoccupation with "correct" grammar.
So I say no way. — jamalrob
it's a common sophomoric mistake to dismiss arguments by quickly categorizing them into their respective domains of invalid inference. — Moliere
The names are better served for self-criticism than as a list of do's and don'ts for others. — Moliere
I think all it would accomplish would be to endorse the bad use of fallacies. So I voted no. — Moliere
Yeah, it's good to know about those fallacies, but I don't think it's a case for pinning. — jamalrob
That's a sound counter-point though, hard to know if it's gonna go down that road, but.... isn't that a slippery slope? — Christoffer
On the contrary -- if it were a slippery slope I would be substituting what the proposal is for some other proposal. So something along the lines of "If we post a list of tips, then this is just one step on the road to making them rules, which is surely just a way for the socialists to take over the forum" — Moliere
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