If that's going to be your attitude, then there's no reason to continue this discussion. — NKBJ
Perhaps the reason is just that few will get a lofty academic position to study "male studies". And the university leadership will think: "Well, we have a woman studies department, so we cannot be intolerant and not have a "male studies" or "men's studies", so let's give them some financing. And to get their voices heard (and funding), perhaps some "male study" people will start talking about 'male rights'. Some of them will likely be deemed as misogynists and accised to be some kind of counter movement to feminism. Perhaps they get their funding from right-wing groups.I agree, but the question raised by the original post was "should a men's rights movement exist?"
My thing is why should it exist? If it does exist, like feminism will it speak to a certain group of men or all men? Considering that the male perspective has been at the forefront of society since the beginning of civilization I question at what point am I as a man in need of male rights when in fact historically my country of is just beginning to treat me as a human being, a civilian?
In other words how can I get behind a movement about my gender when I'm still facing a battlefront of what I look like? — Anaxagoras
But does she know what it's like to be unable to express emotions, things as simple as fear and pain, without the possibility of being outcast and labeled weak? Does she know what it's like to have pent up aggression with no way of relieving it, and to be ostracized as dangerous and problematic when that aggression shows? To fear being accused of rape, and labeled a monster even when found innocent? — Not Steve
erhaps the reason is just that few will get a lofty academic position to study "male studies". And the university leadership will think: "Well, we have a woman studies department, so we cannot be intolerant and not have a "male studies" or "men's studies", so let's give them some financing. — ssu
I don’t see the point in a “Men’s Rights Movement” as I cannot honestly see how it would benefit human society. — I like sushi
I don't have a problem with there being a "men's rights" movement, but at present, it seems kind of dumb to have one. — Terrapin Station
The short answer to the titular question is that it does and it is called Feminism. — Banno
I think he might be referring to Men putting weight behind the original Feminist movement? — I like sushi
For example, the Muslim-world doesn't really treat women that well and could call our attention, more than it does now. — ritikew
They don't treat gay men that well, either. Or gay women. Or Christians. Or atheists. Or Westerners. — S
The short answer to the titular question is that it does and it is called Feminism. — Banno
I'm an egalitarian, and quite frankly as well as technically that is NOT feminism. — Anaxagoras
Feminism is a range of political movements, ideologies, and social movements that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve the political, economic, personal, and social equality of the genders. — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism
Camille Paglia feminism [...] — Merkwurdichliebe
Neither does the west. Just because we aren't actively throwing gay people off buildings or performing public executions does not mean the west is significantly better. Excuse my French, but there are gay men/women trans men/women still getting their ass whooped on the streets for their orientation. There are still Christians shooting at Jews and Muslims and are attacking black churches. — Anaxagoras
But, yea, bathwater gets dirty after awhile, so out it goes ... just as long as it doesn't get confused for the baby. :razz: — javra
Just throw out the baby, keep the bathwater. — Merkwurdichliebe
Besides, disposing of babies down the sewer doesn’t sit too well with most people … this as metaphors go. — javra
Here’s the problem with that statement:
Feminism is a range of political movements, ideologies, and social movements that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve the political, economic, personal, and social equality of the genders.
— https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism — javra
I'm an egalitarian, — Anaxagoras
Just how far gone are you? You cannot see that throwing people from buildings IS FAR worse than a beating, and the rarity of the occurrence (or any act of bigotry towards gays) in the two cultures are not even close. — DingoJones
Instead what do you do? Jump track to the False Equivalence Express. Staggering. — DingoJones
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