I'm not trying to be argumentative with anyone, I'm on psychotropic or psychoactive drugs too. I have to try extra hard not to be argumentative. — Daniel Cox
Bad drugs make people sick and can and does make them behave badly, unacceptably sometimes criminally badly. But the issue is harm to community. Anyone challenge that? — tim wood
So could you clarify which drugs you’re talking about? Alcohol, cannabis, cocaine, meth, codeine, morphine? Which are immoral to take? — Michael
But the issue is harm to community. Anyone challenge that? — tim wood
Agreed, even a good thing. But you have omitted what they're doing. That matters, yes? — tim wood
Btw, is the "e" in your "judgement" and your "judgemental" a British thing? On this side it's judgment, judgmental. Thought you'd like to know. — tim wood
Harm is harm. There may be big harm and little harm, short- and long-term, major/minor, you name the continuum, But harm is harm. — tim wood
Or another way: your thirteen-year-old sister starts taking illegal drugs. Do you say, "You go girl! You're going to have a great time! Let me know if you need any money...". Is that what you say? — tim wood
Sketch for me a scenario where the taking of illegal drugs does no harm to any person or community — tim wood
I’m not saying that harm isn’t harm. I’m saying that you haven’t justified your assertion that any and all harm is immoral.
Saying that if something causes harm (of any degree) then it is immoral is a non sequitur.
All harm is harm but not all harm is necessarily immoral. — Michael
...that of S and his stoner friends camping in the woods. — Michael
I was a meth addict for 17 years, it had its toll on everyone in my family not least of which were my Dad, the Admiral and my Son, born on All Hallows Eve '89. — Daniel Cox
How did they get the illegal drugs, and where from? — tim wood
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