Honestly just curious and I can't think of a single person in my field of friends where this topic would not cause a hands on brawl. — christine
why it comes down to Jesus to decide who is risen and who dies. — christine
christine
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Hello anyone,
I find myself in a conundrum of sorts and although I reckon my own decisions, my curiosity got the best of me and I wanted try to suss out my exact position if possible and maybe relieve my frustation. There may already be a discussion regarding this topic and if so, I apologize and would appreciate being pointed to the approprate forum.
On the subject of religion: what happens to those who do not believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God but yet a real person and a prophet without the kingdom of heaven in the prospect? Honestly just curious and I can't think of a single person in my field of friends where this topic would not cause a hands on brawl. Needless to say I am agnostic and welcome any comments, opinions or views. Also I did not know where else to turn for objective opinions so I appreciate any feedback. Thank you. — christine
Life is a reality for Christians just as for Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims etc. and why would Christians want a way out? Isn't the key purpose to bring those who are lost to Jesus? I am still confused. I am sorry. — christine
Existence/reality is a trap that real Christians don't fall into. — tim wood
Assuming you identify as Christian, in what way or what sense do you believe in God, that you cannot in a similar way believe in Jesus?I am getting married in 2 weeks. What precipitated this conversation is our vows. I do believe in God but not Jesus — christine
Fact is, in a religious discussion, any comment that contains the words "believe" or "belief"...is actually talking about a guess about the unknown. "I 'believe' (in) God"...really means, "My blind guess is that there is a GOD involved in the REALITY of existence." — Frank Apisa
what happens to those who do not believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God — christine
.Needless to say I am agnostic — christine
tim wood
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Fact is, in a religious discussion, any comment that contains the words "believe" or "belief"...is actually talking about a guess about the unknown. "I 'believe' (in) God"...really means, "My blind guess is that there is a GOD involved in the REALITY of existence." — Frank Apisa
Wrong. — tim wood
"I/we believe..," I suppose can mean that for some people, but not a Christian. — Tim Wood
And not in a discussion of Christianity. God is an absolute presupposition of Christianity...; — Tim wood
...as such, questions about the existence of God are simply nonsense questions. — Tim Wood
And people who just do not want to make a blind guess about the question because there is no unambiguous evidence upon which to make a meaningful guess...ARE CORRECT. — Frank Apisa
Merkwurdichliebe
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And people who just do not want to make a blind guess about the question because there is no unambiguous evidence upon which to make a meaningful guess...ARE CORRECT. — Frank Apisa
That's a pretty strong belief. I may even venture to call it piety. — Merkwurdichliebe
You believe you know it.One...it is not a "belief." I know it. — Frank Apisa
Mazel tov as we non-Christians say.I am getting married in 2 weeks — christine
Shamshir
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One...it is not a "belief." I know it. — Frank Apisa
You believe you know it.
It's possible you don't. — Shamshir
That's a beliefI do not do believing — Frank Apisa
That is also a belief.I know that it is not a belief. — Frank Apisa
Shamshir
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I do not do believing — Frank Apisa
That's a belief — Shamshir
I know that it is not a belief. — Frank Apisa
That is also a belief. — Shamshir
And I know that it's a belief in the same way you know it isn't.
Canny, right?
It is not a "belief" — Frank Apisa
Any proof, other than you believe it isn't?No, it isn't. — Frank Apisa
Shamshir
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It is not a "belief" — Frank Apisa
No, it isn't. — Frank Apisa
Any proof, other than you believe it isn't?
What's and where's the infallible proof that determines it's not a belief? — Shamshir
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